F- 70 coil question

[Elton]

NEL sharpshooter or 10x5 DD would be my choice.

Tell me about the Nel sharpshooter. I am not at all familiar with that coil.

 

[Elton]

n/t

 

[sprchng]

NEL sharpshooter or 10x5 DD would be my choice.

Tell me about the Nel sharpshooter. I am not at all familiar with that coil.

I have one that has become my best coil on the etrac--very narrow tight footprint with great depth and stability. I was hoping for the same on the 75v2 , especially for getting close to structures in totlots etc. , but I can't really see much difference between it and the stock 11" for the loss of coverage. I prefer the elliptical over a round coil and what works on an etrac does not necessarily carry over to the Fishers. I think the concentric gives you more options when it comes to the bottle caps which makes it the better choice. This is all while using the 75 of course and the 70 could be different , even if it is a cheaper unit with fewer features thaT all the F70 users aspire to have instead of their 70

 

[detectingMO]

NEL sharpshooter or 10x5 DD would be my choice.

Tell me about the Nel sharpshooter. I am not at all familiar with that coil.

Similar in size to the 10x5 DD. It's a half inch wider so it gets a little more depth. It's near the performance of the 11" DD in a tighter package that does better in trash and EMI. Note, the factory 10x5 is very similar performance but is a few ounces heaver do to closed coil design. Still an excellent coil as well.

 

[jim tn]

Aside from the 11" DD which I use for less trashy, more wide open places, the two coils I would never be without for my F 75's are the 5" DD and the 5 x 10" DD. In fact, the latter sees the most use. The little 5" is like a laser and for me got better depth then the football shape 6" concentric. The 5 x 10 DD is kind of a compromise coil in that it is near equal depth to the 11", but its shape sees fewer targets and thus better target separation then the 11" and 10" concentric....in my experience. Non the less, you actually are pretty well coil covered and might just want to put some good hunting time in with those. And, before you know it ole buddy, it will be winter in Ohio and what coils you have won't make a difference. HH jim tn

 

[IBdiggin]

You didn't need to bring up the "W" word Jim . Here in Wisconsin we've had frost every month this year so far.------------IB

 

[MarkCZ]

Aside from the 11" DD which I use for less trashy, more wide open places, the two coils I would never be without for my F 75's are the 5" DD and the 5 x 10" DD. In fact, the latter sees the most use. The little 5" is like a laser and for me got better depth then the football shape 6" concentric. The 5 x 10 DD is kind of a compromise coil in that it is near equal depth to the 11", but its shape sees fewer targets and thus better target separation then the 11" and 10" concentric....in my experience. Non the less, you actually are pretty well coil covered and might just want to put some good hunting time in with those. And, before you know it ole buddy, it will be winter in Ohio and what coils you have won't make a difference. HH jim tn

With getting older and no real performance gain with 10" dd ve the 11" DD the big block of solid epoxy of the 5"X 10" was the deal breaker for me.
Whenever I tried the round 5" DD It seemed to fail really badly on tilted or edged coils, yea it has a narrow footprint, but the little football coil is pretty tight too, and it does pretty good on depth in the SL mode on the F70.
Here is one thing to keep in mind, the little coils are generally thought of either smaller area or heavy trashed area coils, well the smaller area if not trashy you may want or need extra depth, but in a real trashy area you can't really get to the deep stuff for the trash anyway.

But, location, what your actually looking for, and general health all comes into play.
Relic hunters, have a different set of needs than say a clad coil hunter (tot-lots included)
And a person who it primarily hunts old coins is again different.

So, Elton on your quest for the best coil you can expect to get a lot of different opinions for sure.

Maybe you could try and narrow down what you actually hunt (primarily).
Consider the ground conditions of most of the areas.
Take in your physical heath as far as swinging more or less weight.

For me I guess I could swing the weight, but heavy is way more tiring for sure!
I wanted my F70 to be able to reach the older silver coins when I find places to hunt where they may be some. I also wanted good ground coverage for clad stabbing, so for that the 11" DD fits in perfect!
Then I wanted something for coin and jewelry hunting to work around the trash and not really deep stuff, that's where the little football coil fits in.

Now, in the stubble of plowed fields I'm thinking that the 11" DD or the little football coil wouldn't be the coil of choice!

Mark

 

[foreign object]

Weight always comes up and rightly so.
Why Fisher can't follow some of the other coil makers design and place the mounting ears in the center of the coil is beyond me. Guess they would have to change their molds but that could be phased in over time to help with cost.

As far as the Sharpshooter it is a good coil but after a fair amount of use I know now that it is now as close depth wise as the 11"dd. Some claim so but I know better now.

I will be getting a concentric and the 5x10 when I get my F75 back from repairs.

The F75 and the 5"dd is deeper than you would expect and using boost or FA it turns the F75 into a different machine.

 

[mudpuppy]

Yeah, what Jim said, Elton...you are WAY overthinking this! This is an F70 for Buddhas sake, not a dmaned old Minelab CTX3030! Right now you are more heavily armed with the coils you already have than most of us!

Just fire it up and let 'er work! Open Invitation: Why dont you bring your gear on up here for a Mud tutorial? I always wanted to try those coils to see what the hubbub was all about!
Mud

 

[Elton]

Aside from the 11" DD which I use for less trashy, more wide open places, the two coils I would never be without for my F 75's are the 5" DD and the 5 x 10" DD. In fact, the latter sees the most use. The little 5" is like a laser and for me got better depth then the football shape 6" concentric. The 5 x 10 DD is kind of a compromise coil in that it is near equal depth to the 11", but its shape sees fewer targets and thus better target separation then the 11" and 10" concentric....in my experience. Non the less, you actually are pretty well coil covered and might just want to put some good hunting time in with those. And, before you know it ole buddy, it will be winter in Ohio and what coils you have won't make a difference. HH jim tn

WINTER ??? Oh man your right. Summer is half over up here.. LOL .... Ok guys you convinced me. I was thinking on the 6" coil so as to be better equipped in those really old rusty steel bottle caps that are rusted. The DD's love them..The Concentrics fair out better.. Mud..want me to send you a coil one at a time to try out ?? When you return one I will send the other...

 

[Elton]

n/t

 

[shadowulf]

Elton,
The nest way to describe the Lil football coil is the 10" concs fleet footed little brother. After putting it on the tall man's lower shaft, it was easy to poke and sweep curb and planter edges. As well as work around fences and brush. If better I Ding of a target is a priority, it's a contender. Well worth a try if someone local will let you try theirs.

 

[MarkCZ]

The 3.5"X 6" is also a solid coil.

 

[Elton]

Thanks Mark..I found one for sale if I go that way..........