F-70 observations............

[REVIER]

Want folks to see both sides, I get that, however you happened to pick one that spreads misinformation.
Not DirtFishings fault either, he is just missing a piece of the puzzle in this case.
Maybe you didn't know this, if you haven't spent time with this one I can understand how you could think that this is actually the optimum results possible in a site like this with iron in a hole with a good target.
Heck, even guys that have spent a lot of time learning this one might not know this
At the settings he was using it is, using better settings for this particular site his results would be different.
I believe that, I really do.
Back when I first started to swing this thing I might have done the same thing because 4H tones is my favorite park setting so I might have made the exact same video at that site with the same results.
I happen to be lucky, or stubborn if you prefer, and when I came across a similar or maybe it might have been an even more challenging site with iron I stayed and experimented till I came up with settings that were much better for hunting sites like this.
When I learn new detectors I am totally anal about it which is both a blessing and a curse.
It took time but eventually I had that "AHA" moment when it all came together and I was able to recognize great non ferrous targets trying to hide in iron fields.
I have used that technique and one other I learned at other sites too and they also worked so not a fluke.
I actually have a few hours of video captured with my Go Pro at this iron mine site showing how I was able to do this and the settings I used but I never processed and posted it.
I have an older slow computer and not much patience for waiting, nowadays.

Sorry to jump on you like that, but it is obvious to me that this thing would not have failed so miserably with a little more knowledgeable settings.
That is what is so great about these forums, this is a place we can share different settings and discoveries and pass them on and I do because I also learn here myself.

Maybe I need to get some of that iron hunting video up and process it.
Different mindset, different settings...way different results.

 

[Mike Hillis]

HA!
Dark,

When a Fan club is in session that you are not a member of, it is best to just let it be.

You could always start a new thread centered around the video. The response will be the same but you wont get kicked as badly.

HH
Mike

 

[REVIER]

Didn't mean to kick...more like aiming to poke.
Don't know my own strength so I apologise.
I just find it a bit irksome that in a thread where a member got a new rig and with all the CongratZ going on, pats on the back and positive comments and tips this thing pops up to throw water on the whole thing.
A nice video from a well respected hunter but not representative in the way this thing could have, should have performed if he had bothered to use another setting out of the gazillion that is possible.
Turn on and go is usually fine for general hunting even with this one, but add in some twists and turns and maybe results could have been different with a few adjustments.
Way different.
Calling this thing a failure is the truth...with the settings he used.
Didn't see a follow up vid hunting that same area with more optimum settings, something I would have tried at least a little before calling anything a failure.


Plenty of vids out there showing this thing in action by hunters that know it well.
Russ Balbirona has several and others.
I would have more but I am lazy.
Maybe I should rethink that.
My jaw shouldn't be the only one that constantly drops around here.

 

[Mike Hillis]

Revier,
Those who rain on someone else's parade can't expect a warm welcome
I completely understand your position. I was just giving some friendly advice.
HH
Mike

 

[REVIER]

Revier,
Those who rain on someone else's parade can't expect a warm welcome
I completely understand your position. I was just giving some friendly advice.
HH
Mike

I get that and understand completely.
No hard feelings toward anyone around here, I have a pretty open mind about posts, vids, comments and all that most of the time about detectors I have never used.
If I don't have any real world experience with them I really have no idea what the real truth is so I just take everything with a grain of salt but it is all still interesting to me.
However even though I only have a couple I get really passionate when I see, from my point of view, misinformation spread around on units I have taken hundreds if not up to and over a thousand hours to learn and learn well.

One guy on YouTube drove me absolutely crazy once.
He posted a vid water hunting using his F2....then he dunked it in the lake.
Wouldn't turn on or anything, he thought it was toast.
The next thing you know a couple weeks later he puts up another vid comparing an Ace 250 against this same unit.
Says he was asked by many to do this.
Evidently after drying out a few days it powered up again but he never mentioned in this comparison vid that this thing went for a nice swim recently.
You should have seen how this thing worked, or didn't work, actually.
Wouldn't ID quarters right at all, couldn't give any correct info at all on any dime at 2" or 4" in dirt, could hardly hit a dime at all 4" deep in sand.
A joke.
Total misinformation and a huge disservice to anyone that wanders in looking for actual true information to help with a buying decision.
I know the F2 just about as well as anyone, better than many and I know this vid is a joke but others without knowing the truth about this unit and how it actually works or that little fact that the thing took a dunk would think this is reality.
The sad thing is this guy still has that video posted and evidently sees nothing wrong with keeping it out there.
Clueless.
Got a lot of grief about it from other F2 owners that knew it wasn't working right but didn't even know about the water issue, also.
Still left it up....still clueless.

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=EHFmCdt3Enw
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2205864,page=1
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=-VZu4gn815E

 

[Elton]

Revier,
Those who rain on someone else's parade can't expect a warm welcome
I completely understand your position. I was just giving some friendly advice.
HH
Mike

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Hi Mike & Revier

Mike & Revier.it didn't rain on my Parade at all LOL I know what my F-70 is doing.It's deep..it finds coins, Silver included. It's stable..and I love it... I 'm no newbie either. I know what is good and what isn't.
The 10 coil works great in iron infested sites.The 11" adds more depth and the 5" is precision hunting with really good results..

 

[shadowulf]

Well, it goes to show you that "pro" and "expert" are subjective titles.

My question is, what if the ML/F70 results were reversed? I'm sure the fanboys for MLs would be on him like white on rice.

I've seen Dirtfishing's videos and they are okay. I am of a differing opinion because frankly, I can't afford a new ML etrac or even a 705.
In drag racing parlance, I "run what I brung". No one that uses a F70 will tell you it's an "easy" machine. It takes some learning to work it great. I'm not there yet, but I'm working on it.

Elton, sorry to hear that you are moving to the F75-2. I was really looking forward to your experienced input. But seeing your results, should state well enough that the F70 is not "junk". Mud & Rev have shown that a lot can be done with this little machine. I hope to be among there ranks someday.

Good luck and still look forward to your feedback.

'wulf

 

[Elton]

No Sir the F-70 is not junk.. Far far from it in fact.

I had a very hard time making the deal in my mind from F-70 to F75 DST..... In fact I still have my doubts if I should , or should not have.

I just wanted to try the DST and " Backwoods " made it possible in a very attractive trade deal. I will get another F-70 down the road if the 75 isn't what I think it will be..

I just hope the 75 works as well as the 70 does.. Better may be a hard thing to expect. As well will be sufficient for sure.

So if anyone is having doubts about getting a F-70 ..Don't. Their a remarkable detector.

Maybe the best single frequency detector I ever owned in fact..

 

[shadowulf]

As I think more about this, you having the F75-DST might play to our advantage.
You having the experience of the F70, might help us "lowly" F70 guys tweak our setting to try and match the F75 performance.
Or at least get close to it.

 

[Elton]

You make great finds, as well as others do with the F-70, and other machines on the market..

More money, different modes, for a detector does not make it of higher caliber. It just means it is different in some operations..

There is no do it all perfect machines. I do truly believe there are "EGO" machines out there.. Costing the most..and having a few extra Bells and Whistles on them.. does not make them work any better. "Just offer different" ways of doing the same thing.

You F-70 guys are always at the top of the list for good consistent finds in the field.. That is where, and what counts... F-70 users have more fun too. They can play around with the detector, and make it do just what they want it to do as you pointed out in one of your posts.

One more thing..don't forget that nifty 10" concentric stock coil on the F-70.... It's a coin slayer that handles iron far better than the 11" DD on the F-75's does. In fact I will get a 10" concentric for my F-75.. They put a 10" concentric on the F70 for a reason... Solid performance in most detecting situations. Years of proven usage......... and less EMI.

"LOWLY " I think not !!.