F75 VS DFX.

[Tommybumkin]

I use a whites dfx mostly on farmland sites with a reasonable amount of iron. I was just thinking of selling the dfx and maybe buying a f75 , has anyone here used a dfx and now use a f75 and if so what difference in performance am i likeley to get on farmland... Especially iron infested sites.... I hunt relics through to coins mostly. I don't hunt primarily for jewelry.

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

Even no with the DFX you can program it forever I never could make a big difference. I changed it to a two filter machine and it was no faster in iron. It has no depth and is heavy but it is a good machine, it just never lived up to what I thought was what I needed.

Now we have the F75 and I have always loved fishers. The F75 is twitchy but not like the DFX...what it is doing is talking to you. It is deep and fast in iron if not one of the fastest 13KHz machines out there. It has a lot of programing and is a powerful machine but you have to take it slow when learning it. It will do what the DFX can't do and the bigger coil works like a small coil. So when they come out with a small coil it will be unstopable in iron and trash.

It is going to be a long time coming when someone comes out with a detector better then the F75. With how the big compaines are slowing down their designing of newer machines or making some changes and selling it as a better machine...Fisher jumped to the top of the list by designing a fast machine, a deep machine and a light machine.

Keep your DFX for the beach if you hunt the wet sand. I don't think White's new machine will be anything to different from what is already out there. And it may be sometime before Fisher top its F75 but why wait when you can be finding all sorts of cool finds. It is getting harder to hunt as the world changes.

 

[Tagamet]

You may well get a totally different answer here than if you posted the same question in the White's forum. I had a DFX for a while, and it's a good machine, but I never fell in love with it. I traded that machine for an Explorer II and liked that better than the DFX. It's really a personal thing as to which machine best fits your hunting style and the conditions in which you hunt.
The F75 (for me) is like moving from driving my old '66 Cherry Red Volkswagon Beatle (it got you there), and moving to a Lexus SUV (I'm just guessing on the Lexus because I can't afford one). Lots of options, flexibility, and QUICK (definitely not "Beatle like").
If you can afford to, save the DFX as a backup and get an F75. If that's not in the financial cards, I wouldn't hesitate to sell the DFX and get an F75 (now that I've used the F75).
Technology has changed a LOT since the DFX came out (2000?). In a lot of ways, the F75 is a great example of how far we've come.
Just my 10 cents,
Tagamet

 

[alton]

It has a more depth as well and is simpler to learn and use. The DFX is a great detector and was once my favorite, but the F75 has a little more up to date technology, a little faster, and works better in iron. Both have excellent TID numbers, but the F75 separates them a little better, and has a all metal mode that can also ID. I will say these are advantages, but not overwhelming. However, you will like them once you have them.

Compared to a Explorer I usually tell someone asking that the F75 is a good compliment to it. I can't really say that about the DFX, but you would benefit if you could have both although the F75 will cover pretty much everything on a DFX. For instance the F75 has a marked speed advantage over an Explorer, but the DFX is pretty fast too. So that is one way they do not compliment each other.

For now, the DFX does have far more coils to work with. Also Whites will soon be releasing a new detector that will almost surely replace the DFX as their top end detector.

That is my dilema. I've bought 5 detectors that replaced 4 of my previous ones. Now if Whites has a new killer detector, I've pretty much spent all I can spend.

But the F75 will be a better choice for you right now if you have to buy today, in my slightly guarded opinion.

HH Alton

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

. . . and moving to a Lexus SUV.

Pul-ease! A Lexus maybe, but not a big, klunky SUV. More like an Audi A6 Turbo from your Beetle (I had a '67). Fast, light and capable without being overpriced.

 

[Mike Hillis]

I've ran them both side by side. On the DFX, if your ground phase numbers are between -80 to -95, the F-75 will trash it. If your ground phase numbers are below -80, then the DFX will work ok and with low discrimination you can still get pretty decent depth, but the F-75 will still run deeper. The F-75 is much more sensitive. Nothing out there today compares to the F-75's target separation abilities so there isn't even a need to compare the two for that.

I personally like the DFX, but my ground wouldn't allow me to use the dual frequency modes or the 15kHz mode for coin hunting. That just left the 3kHz mode as an option and I could get a different machine (xterra) that could give me 3 kHz with more adaptability.

Also, for inland jewelry hunting, the F-75 is the machine to compare against. It beat the DFX in that respect as well.

my nickel.

HH

Mike

 

[Tagamet]

[quote Charlie P. (NY)]

. . . and moving to a Lexus SUV.

Pul-ease! A Lexus maybe, but not a big, klunky SUV. More like an Audi A6 Turbo from your Beetle (I had a '67). Fast, light and capable without being overpriced.[/quote]

PUL-Ease! right back! You're description sounds like the F75 is an anorectic hooker. Here in the mountains of central Penna, we need 4-wheel drive to get out of the driveway. SOMEDAY, I'll get the Lexus SUV (Hybrid or even better, Plugin Hybrid). but for now my Jeep (coming up on 200,000 miles) does great.
All seriousness aside, the point is that the F75 is just flat-out fast! (maybe like "Paris Hilton on Crack?)
Be well and HH,
Tagamet

 

[digitrich]

Pull-ease, my brother was crushed between an Audi and an suv, driving a Lexus!!!!!!....................................... you guys are so insensitive to other's feelings. I do have a question though, the guy who said "my nickel", is his advice half as good as the guy who said "my ten cents worth"?

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Here in the mountains of central Penna, we need 4-wheel drive to get out of the driveway.

I live on a ridge-top outside Tunnel, NY. Not far from PA. I just leave the Pirelli Winter Carving snow tires on my Jetta Turbo Wagon year round. If you ain't heavy, you don't sink in, you don't sink in, you don't need 4WD. 4WD just gets you stuck farther from help.

Back to TommyBumpkin's original question - I hunt my hobby farm which is old brush-lot and pasture land from farms gone by. I've found iron of every discription. With the F-75 I can ignore it entirely with the discrimination mode easily and efficiently.

Don't know from a DFX (or even what the initials stand for ;-) ) but I am very happy with how the F-75 masks iron. I've been playing more and more with the All Metal mode and, even though I hear it (iron), it is easy to ignore by watching the TID. When I see a high number flash I go back and sweep from a different approach and have pulled targets near iron. Just don't dig anything that reads 21 or less. The really large chunks will hop around on the TID and be an obviously wider arc along the sweep. Easy to interpret as "that ain't no coin".

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

I would not count on white's coming out with a better detector then the F75. If they were smart they would come out with something so new and different it would have everyone scratching their heads saying how did they do that. It may be a better mouse trap then their M6 but I don't think it will match the F75.

 

[Tommybumkin]

n/t

 

[Mark in NC]

and I enjoyed it quite a bit. Being a gadget nut, it appealed to my "tinker till you drop" side. However, I found myself tinkering myself out of quite a bit of valuable hunting time. I feel the F-75 is deeper and much faster in my area. The F-75 also kicks hiney at target separation and iron discrimination, in my humble opinion.

 

[Streak!]

I was a LONG time whites user, and used the DFX with ALL the coils for quite some time. The F75 far surpasses it in weight, comfort (ergonomics),ease of use, depth and performance. Thats not to say the DFX was a bad machine, but the only place it really shined was in wet salt, as compared to other VLF machines. I'd have taken an XLT over the DFX anytime in regular relic hunting. I kinda feel like
Tagamet... liked it but never fell in love with it.