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First Run with the Teknetics T2 'Classic' and Initial Impressions

Fish N Chips

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I got my Teknetics T2 'Classic' delivered today. I have been excited beyond belief. I opened the package and assembled the detector. It went together easily and looks great. The LCD screen does flex a bit on the top of the handle, but I do not notice it while swinging or using it. I think it is the effect of the plastic handle flexing, not a design flaw. I would take some force to beak it, and it is likely a mute point. Build quality is good, not as good as my Tesoros, but still very nice. I like the adjustable arm cuff, you can set it up perfectly to fit the user. The weight is a bit more than my Tesoros, but still very light and it balances well. The tones remind me a lot of the Tesoros, and should help shorten the learning curve.

All the videos I watched made it simple to get going very quickly. I was surprised my ground was so iron rich, averaging 75 to 80 on the ground balance. No wonder I struggle with depth from my Tesoros concentric coils. The DD coil may help with this. I did some tests on coins and trash and played with the tones. I like the all metal being able to display the TID, that should give some great depth and be good for gold prospecting.

I took the detector to a local park. There is a large RADAR array at the park left over from WWII. They still use it and it was on as the EMI was terrible. The detector was going crazy, almost unusable. My daughter was along with my Silver Umax and even it was going crazy. My Eldorado also struggles at this park at times. I turned the T2's sensitivity down to 20 and it ran stable enough, but was very chatty. We also struggled with our drought conditions, digging was tough and the park has not seen water in months. I was still able to dig some coins 4-5", a glob of lead, some brass pieces and an old license plate year tab.

I did find the flaw in the DD coil, bottle caps and pull tabs. I have read this a lot on forums with the DD coils, they sound so good and are coin sized. A lift of the coil did help to show most of them as trash, something I need to remember when getting that high but slightly jumpy reading. Coin TIDs did not drop off or jump like the bottle caps, the sound just faded away but was consistent. It did well on other IDs and tones. I know the result of passing pull tabs and foil (gold rings), but it sure is nice to be able to cherry pick and not tear up the park, especially as dry as it was. I did notice that pull tabs ring the same VID as nickles, another thing I need to figure out how to separate (if possible). I am pretty good on my Eldorado at figuring pull tabs and bottle caps as there is more separation on my discrimination dial between the tabs and nickles, but admit I hate parks in general for the trash. Tired of the dry dirt digging we headed to a second park.

The second park they have been watering a bit more but it was still very dry, but there is no EMI to deal with. What a difference, the detector was very quiet. Again I struggled with a few bottle caps but was noticeably better in identifying them. I was running along a large oak and got a soft signal. 8 inches down I found a 1980 clad dime, good depth and I am sure it will go deeper especially in better and wetter ground conditions. We tried the Silver on the dime and it would not hit on it in the dry dirt even at max sensitivity. We began finding some 1960-1970 pennies, a few quarters and of course pull tabs and bottle caps, lol. No amazing finds but it was a good first run. I did dig more as I am still learning the machine. It is very sensitive. My daughter did very well with the coins while I played with the variety of targets trying to guess and dig.

I like it, it seems to be a great machine. It is not any 'better' than my Tesoros, but I do think it has much better depth, some great features, and the DD coil will work well in the mineralized soil. I did not realize my soil was so hot, even the parks were running 74 or above on the ground balance. Maybe not that unusual, but higher than I was anticipating. I hope I do not struggle with the discrimination too much with the switch from the concentric coils to the DD. It seemed to ID iron easily, but I do hunt around a lot of bit of tin cans which can ring up high. I see why Monte likes the small coil. I used the 11" coil and it struggled in the park trash around the tables and BBQs. It will be great for fields and the open areas of the parks, but the smaller coil will see a lot of use on this machine. I doubt I could even run the 15" coil unless the site was really clean. I considered getting one, but will stick with the 11" and 5" coils. I like the depth meter, I can see that useful for sniffing out deep old coins. The TID is fun, but I do still rely on the audio and repeatable tones above all. The different tones are nice, but found I like the 1, 2+ and sometimes the 3. 2+ being my favorite, the 1 reminding me of my Tesoros. The audio is quite good, I am starting to learn its descriptive nature. As with my other machines there is simply no doubt when you hit a good target, the questionable ones are the trash. I have learned this with my Tesoros and need to remember it with the new machine. I can only see this audio rule not working when looking for those partially masked and really deep signals.

I remember the same frustration learning my Tesoros, digging lots of trash compared to good targets. I know time swinging the machine and learning it will be the cure. I do think it has the capability to go deep, which I look forward to using for old silver in our hard hit parks and homes here. I look forward to learning the nuances of the new detector. I plan to toss the 5" coil on tomorrow and trying again in the trash and bottle caps. I am curious to see how the small coil does. I am betting better target separation, better TIDs and discrimination due to the fewer trash targets under the coil at any one time. At least I do not have any bottle caps and pull tabs at my 1800s sites!

Sorry for the long write up. I can not wait for tomorrow to play some more.
 
A good write-up: well done.
Sounds like you pretty much nailed it first time out.
For "parks" I prefer to use something else and a smaller coil than the standard T2
But for "open country" fields, I think it's one of the best machines available.
Been using one for a few weeks where I had previously run others and its "find rate" equalled and surpassed them all AND found silver!
 
The T2 is my main all round machine these days,for trashy roman sites then the 5'' coil is the best choice,must admit i 'personally' hate the stock coil and i think the build quality of the coil lets the T2 down and was in the early days was one of the main problems with this machine,i use the NEL Sharpshooter instead of the stock coil this i feel is a far better ll round coil.Then i start getting onto the specialised coils for specific site use and these are the SEF15x12 for real deep hoard hunting situations and also what is rapidly becoming my No1 all round coil the NEL Storm,of course coil choice is a personal thing and down to the sites that i detect on which is usually farmland and pasture.

Glad that you are liking the T2 and the initial review is very good,i have had mine a fair few years but still learning all the time,although i do have other machine i always gravitate back to the T2,no other machine has done this.

Good luck with your new machine and may it find you many nice finds.
 
Thanks guys. I may check into one of the NEL sharp shooter coils. I think the smaller size would make a much better general use coil for my sites. The 11" coil is just too large for the trash.

I just got back from the park to try the 5" coil. I only spent a few hours, I can only dig so much clad. That and the homeless population was wearing me out with their sleeping all over the park, fights and open drug use. I got tired of looking over my shoulder.

The 5" coil was fantastic. I easily pulled 4x the coins in half the time today. Funny thing about small coils is it feels like you are not able to cover much ground, but the find ratio increases dramatically. It was able to see through all the trash and pull out the good tones. I also found it was not fooled nearly as easily by the bottle caps. I only dug one that fooled me, the others I had a good idea what they were but was still confirming TIDs and tones on the new machine. I pulled several pennies, dimes and a few quarters. Dimes were my #1 find today.

I still think the tone is better on my Tesoros. It is much easier to distinguish trash by hearing, but the TID sure is nice for picking out the coins without thumbing the discrimination. The tone is not bad on this, and I know I just need to learn it better. I can just pick out more of the rasp of trash with the analog detectors. That may change with more use. The T2 does have a fast reset, it was popping and clicking away through the trash. I just listened for the good tone, then checked it for repeatability, tone and steady(er) TID.

The depth meter seemed a little off with the smaller coil, showing targets deeper than they were by an inch or so. My deepest find with the small coil was a 5" dime. I did have one signal I really wanted. It said 8-9" and rang up around silver (94-95 TID). Trouble is it was under a huge tree root mass. I tried my best to tunnel in to it but simply could not reach it through the mass of old roots. I would need to return with hand pruners , a saw and a larger shovel. Not sure if I want to do that much digging in the city park,lol. My pinpointer was able to hit on it toward the end and it was a small target (not a soda can), but was just beyond reach of my trowel and fingers in the roots.

I can not wait to give this a try at my old spots. I know it will be much more functional away from all the modern trash and clad, lol. I envy you guys across the pond, our history here is so short. Amazing to have a chance at celtic and roman coins!
 
Wish I could find a coil in the 6x8" range, I would think that to be a perfect size. Is that NEL sharp shooter coil much smaller than the stock 11"?
 
The T2 is a great machine. Sounds like you are really going to like it. I would stick with the 5" coil for a while to learn the detector. It is much easier with the small coil. I also have the sharpshooter and I agree it is a great coil. Also the ground balance numbers don't really tell how much mineralization is there. There is an fe meter. Bob the coil up and down and see how many bars show on the meter. This tells how bad the mineral is.
 
Gosh I cut my teeth on the first T2 back about 2006...
The ground balance number is the phase number reading
and indicates the type of soil that could be associated with
higher concentrations of magnetic black sand.
The barograph reading is expressed in numbered micro-
cgs units which measure the amount of magnetic susceptibility
in the ground regardless of the type of soil...
 
Thanks, I checked in the T2 booklet and it says 80 shows iron in the soil and fairly normal on the chart. Our soil is red clay with lots of rocks, I have been told it can be pretty hot up by the gold fields, but the valley floor must not be too bad. I pumped the coil and it only showed 2-3 bars for the FE, so our soil falls into normal. My brothers detector (Cheapo Barska) only showed 60 for the ground balance, so I was guessing the ground balance lower than it really was. I was hitting the park yesterday and got a balance of 55-60 in a few spots where they brought in fill, and 75-80 over the native soil.

I will stick with the stock coils for now, they are a good match for open areas and the trash. I took it out for a bit today in my yard with the 11" coil. We have 20 acres, it was part of an old ranch but the ranch house sat about 1/2 mile from where we are. I found some modern coins from when the house was built but nothing else. When my family gets home (I am watching the baby), I may run over to the park and try again. I really want to try for some old coins. I think i will go slow and listen for the whisper signals and see what I come up with. I may take my larger trowel and see if I can get under that root too, it is driving me crazy as to what it could be. It is a large old Sycamore tree the signal is coming from. The tree has been there since 1945 based on the historic areals.

I pulled out some old coins and checked the VID on the machine to give me a rough idea what to look for on the old coins. I was happy to see the V nickles, buffalo and modern nickles ran right at 58, with no to little change in the VID. The indian heads ran from 78 to 80 depending on age (amount of copper), so right with the zincs. All my silver of course rang up high 85 to 95 depending on the size. Obviously digging all targets in those ranges (within reason) will lead to the rewards. Wish me luck!
 
What a difference a few days make. No monumental finds again, but boy was I able to pull the coins and targets from the trash.

We hit the park for an hour this evening after dinner. My daughter ran the Silver Umax and got some nice coins. She is getting good at hearing the good signals on the Tesoro. I took the 5.75 coil off my Eldorado and put it on the Silver Umax for her. It is much lighter, better discrimination and works well in the trash for her. It helps me as I do not have to dig near as much trash for her as with her Bounty Hunter Jr. I may have to get another small 5.75 coil, as I may have lost this one! :)

I ran the larger 11" coil again on my T2 as I had it on earlier for running around my field. I was going to put the small 5" DD on but knew time was short and darkness was falling fast. I was still able to pull many nice coins from the litter. I also got a few keys looking for nickles. I dug some trash, but guessed pretty accurately each time I dug what the trash targets were, although I was secretly hoping for some jewelry as we were on the tot lot perimeter.

I am pretty happy how well the detector is working, and the shortened learning curve compared to when I first started this hobby. I think learning on tone machines only (Tesoro) was a big help, and will always be a skill I will work to improve on. I look forward to many good finds with the new detector. It will be great for changing up hunts at my sites, and uncovering some relics and coin from the square nails.
 
Thats great news that you are enjoying the T2,i dig all decent targets over 40 but if the signal bounces as i call it from say 50-80 then thats a very good indication that its iron.Pinpointing with the stock coil is pretty spot on,the 11'' coil has a small 1/2'' round dot on top and bottom of the coil case and most folks thinks these are the blow moulding holes,they are not they are actual pinpointing marks that are specially placed on the coil so that one can pinpoint more accuratly.

Trust the T2 its a very good machine,i have owned my T2 standard for a fair few years and still blown away by the finds that it has produced,it loves gold and has found me a few Celtic 1/4 gold staters from 55BC over and they are very small coins,my favourite Gold coin found with the T2 was a George 111 full Guinea in excuse the pun but in 'mint condition' that coin on its own paid for the T2 and many coils that i use with it.

Its great that you are enjoying using the detector,especially when you can get out with your daughter.
 
Thanks, it really is a great machine. I like how simple it is to set-up and run. I am running within seconds and it is so easy to change on the fly. I am looking forward to try gold prospecting with it in our local gold fields this next summer. I was able to detect a #6 lead bird shot today from 2-3 inches with the small 5" coil even with some EMI chatter (air test in the house). My Tesoro Eldorado does not even respond to a gold nugget or piece of lead that small. It is a very sensitive machine.

If you dont mind me asking, what is your TID on gold coins? I would love to find a US gold coin some day. That would definately be a dream come true.
 
Fish N Chips said:
If you dont mind me asking, what is your TID on gold coins? I would love to find a US gold coin some day. That would definitely be a dream come true.

I cannot answer the question,2 main reason and gold coins or infact any gold find going back maybe 2000 years can vary in gold content by a wide margin as they sometimes reduced the gold quality during lean times would be the best way to describe it,so you could pass one coin over the coil and it would give you one reading but pass another coin and you could infact get 2 wide reading numbers,so they are not as reliable as hallmarked gold items.Also i rarely use the screen as like all my machines i tend to go mainly by audio which is far more accurate and when i use it in 2+ its basically a 'yes' or a 'no' indication.

Audio is far more accurate at depth as well that is the main reason that i also dont rely on screens to make my sole digging decisions,on most of my sites ie deep ploughed farm land or pasture the targets would be deep and they for the most part wont show a TID but the audio still rings out at greater depths,so if i was just to rely on screen watching i would also miss the best deeper older targets and that is what i am after.

On one of my sites that has provided me with Celtic gold staters they are deep,no TID but the audio still rings out a good dig signal,this is why i rarely use screens for the main digging decision,it would be fine in your parks and tots lot that has shallow finds and basically the same type of target as you can basically call a Wheaties or a dime or what ever you call them mainly by the TID No's as that would work well.But in the UK our targets are not only deeper but also so mainly variations in target sizes,various metals and the massive time duration that they could have been in the ground as you can see these would/could have skewed the TID numbers so this is why audio is king.

I even use Deus with a expensive controller mainly just for setting my progs up,then once i am happy with my setting i just use it as high tech beep and dig machine,the screen on a Deus is not reliable after 7-8'' but the audio is much more reliable at far greater depths,of course this is just how i use my detectors on my sites,everyone uses a machine differently so what works for one person could not work for another detectorist.

Coil sizes and settings also are a personal choice,many folks across the pond tend to use smallish coils for trashy parks or old towns that are long gone the reason they use a small coil is to get in between the trash,but for the most of my detecting on open farmland or pasture then i would use a larger coil to get to the deeper target,of course we do have roman/saxon/celtic trashy sites that can have sometimes carpets of hobnails from romans footwear ie hobnail boots,you could not use a large coil on a site like that but this is when you would change over to a much smaller coil to get in between the iron looking for those old roman silver coins or other artifacts but you would not stand a chance with a large coil.

I always carry a selection of detectors with me usually 3-4 and a variety of coils all ready set up on complete rods so that change over can be carried out in seconds,if i am away on a site many miles from home then i will carry coils from 4'' right upto 18'' and also a twin box setup for maximum depth if i am lucky to locate the holy grail of finds.

Sorry not to be able to give a total positive answer on Gold TID No's but its one that has so many variations you cannot give a positive answer,its also the same basically with our silver hammered coins the silver content can vary by a big margin as well.
 
Thankyou Mega,

Very thoughtful response. I am excited to see what depths I can achieve when I really learn the machine. Some of my digs so far have been impressive, but nothing beyond the TID. Is is possible a lot of my coins here simple are unable to sink very deep. Some of my old sites have a lava cap under the top soil, so nothing is deeper than 5-6 inches. The parks are deeper due to soil fill over the years. Areas along the river can be very deep due to flooding and silt deposits.

I may take it out to an old house after work tomorrow. It was torn down in 1966 and would be a great test for the typical house debris with a chance of silver coins. I have enjoyed trying the machine at more challenging sites with the trash and targets to judge how it will perform. Some of my 1800s sites have older trash, but no pull tabs, aluminum, and bottle caps to deal with; so in a way are a bit easier. It is good to learn the abilities in modern trash. My tests definately build my confidence in the machines ability.
 
Yep I think the t2 is darn near impossible to beat until some new technology comes along.
The sheer accuracy of the vdi makes coin hunting in trash so easy,I seldom dig trash and that's only because trash in the hole makes me want to make sure a good target is not in the hole with the trash.
It and my gamma 6000 both are my go too's.
 
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