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For coin shooting as my focus,would the Explorer be overkill or still a good choice ? thanks :)
- Thread starter ojm bc
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Ojm bc,It depends on what you mean by "overkill," I don't believe that any detector out there would be better than the Explorer for the job...
But there are a lot of machines out there that are not as good as the Explorer for the job.
You can go out and buy a simple one knob pre-set GB detector, and dig lots of stuff between the goodies;
there are lots to choose from between the simplest detector and the most involved sophisticated machine such as the Explorer.
If you like to "see" and hear as much info as possible about the detected item BEFORE digging go for the Explorer.
If you feel that you driving a machine offering so much adjustability might be more than you would want to come to grips with, opt for a less complicated instrument.
IMHO
HH
Snowy
But there are a lot of machines out there that are not as good as the Explorer for the job.
You can go out and buy a simple one knob pre-set GB detector, and dig lots of stuff between the goodies;
there are lots to choose from between the simplest detector and the most involved sophisticated machine such as the Explorer.
If you like to "see" and hear as much info as possible about the detected item BEFORE digging go for the Explorer.
If you feel that you driving a machine offering so much adjustability might be more than you would want to come to grips with, opt for a less complicated instrument.
IMHO
HH
Snowy
Can you program a VCR??? If you cant well the explorer is not your bag, however, when you go somewhere after you spent hours looking at old Platte maps researching for good places to hunt, and you get there only to find several people have all ready been there and there's little left to be had; well that's when you're glad you bought an explorer, because when you do learn that machine which is no easy task mind you, that machine will pull stuff out of beaten to death ground, because it separates targets better, gives better control in areas with electrical interference and it uses 25 some odd more frequencies that any other machine so it sees more, and more accurately at greater depths.It does take some time to learn how to interpret all this alien information, but the worst feeling in the world is knowing you could of spent a little more and be using the best available. I've had my explorer SE 2 months and I'm pulling silver out of parks that I know have been detected by lots of other people before me, shush, don't let them hear me, All these guys have explorers and I don't want them hunting in my parks, I LIKE SILVER and so does my SE. Oh, By the way overkill is when you buy the cheaper machine because you're too cheap to cough up the bucks for the one you really need and then when you figure that out and you have to go and buy the explorer anyway and now you wish you didn't own a bounty hunter 350 dollar land star, that you probably will never use as a stud finder. The explorer, well its not light, its not easy and its not cheap, but its the best. If you're more of a turn on and go and never attempt to improve type of guy, don't buy an explorer, the beauty of it is its ability to function in about every situation, but you have to learn what, how, and when to make those adjustments, its kind of like a relationship. If you don't want or have time for that kind of commitment, pick up the homeless girl, you can drop her off anywhere.Good luck to you and if you live near me than don't buy the explorer.
Tony N (Michigan)
Active member
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No hype, Just honest info....When they tell you it is a detector that must be "LEARNED"....believe them...What they failed to mention is, if you follow this forum & the Explorer classroom forum, learning will be a much much easier, pleasant experience...& any problems you have, just bring them here...If you're really interested in the Explorer my suggestion is to go back through this forum a ways & spend some time reading the posts...One of the best things I've found here on this forum though is the HONESTY of everybody here...go back a ways & you'll see what I mean...Not a lot of Mine's bigger than yours stuff around here...Overkill for coins??? I didn't know there was such a thing...Tom
That's why I like it here and I believe this is my first post here. I have been reading this forum for weeks and weeks now. There is NO bickering...NO "I know more than you know"..NO garbage. Everyone on this forum is here to either share or to learn. My SE is shipping to me next week as I finally took the plunge. Why...not because I read a bunch of hype or arguments. I read honest genuine posts from people who actually hunt and share opinions and settings. I will be learning and using exactly what I read on here..and then will hopefully be incorporating in my own opinions and settings to share.
Keep the posts coming and HH
Keep the posts coming and HH
I am happy I got mine. I had a bounty huunter and it was ok. It got me hooked on this hobby. After 6 months I did a lot of reading and purchased from what I saw was the best. You will be happy you have it when you get to the fair grounds and right next to the coin toss game was the bb gun machine gun range. The EX11 walked right through the BB's and cleaned up on the coins. Eventually you wont be looking for coins. You will start to experiment and switch to iron mode. Old square nails are fun to find. The flexibilty of tuning for diffrent types of metal makes it all worth while. Its like a good watch dog. Once you get to know it, you can tell by the bark if someone is there or not. Just my aimless thoughts, good luck.
jimb SE WI
jimb SE WI
If I can do it anybody can...I'm not a rocket scientist, I'm a truck driver & at times I can be easily frustrated with techno type stuff the only part of the manual that I found useful was on pages 38 & 39...it gives the base map of the main menue...setting it up just takes a little experimenting with the different tones & settings...took me a couple days...but I'm starting to get the hang of it...Still it will take a lot of time with it to become "GOOD"... Let me put it to you this way...I just sold my MXT to purchase the SE...& even with only two days learning the controls & 1/2 day of hunting today, It's more than obvious to me that it is a far superior "COIN" machine...but if I were aftr small pieces of placer gold the MXT would be the better choice...Tom.....IMHO...of course..
In my opinion the explorer is a versatile machine that will do
most any type of hunting. I have had mine for a year now, and
had to take time to learn the different digital signals, and smart find screen. For the beginner, use the factory pre set program.
It is basically set for coin shooting. lower your threshold as low as you can, and still hear it. lay down some coins and scan them.
03-28 should be a dime, then hit smart find and check the position of the cross hairs. Test the signals on silver coins, wheat pennies,
different nickles halves ect. write the ferrous and conductivity
numbers on a note pad. Example; DIME 03-28, QUARTER 00-28 and so on.
You will have a reference handy when you hit the field. You will hear different tones also. It wont take long to get use to the explorer that way. Once you feel comfortable with this, then try the advanced programs. If all else fails, when you restart the machine, hole the on button in for 2 seconds and you will reset the machine back to factory presets. The other thing that needs to be mentioned is get a 5" coil for trashy areas. once you learn this, you
will be digging the good stuff and leaving most trash. However, check foil and pull tab signals if you want rings, gold ect.
I hope this will be helpful.
Savage Pensacola Fl.
most any type of hunting. I have had mine for a year now, and
had to take time to learn the different digital signals, and smart find screen. For the beginner, use the factory pre set program.
It is basically set for coin shooting. lower your threshold as low as you can, and still hear it. lay down some coins and scan them.
03-28 should be a dime, then hit smart find and check the position of the cross hairs. Test the signals on silver coins, wheat pennies,
different nickles halves ect. write the ferrous and conductivity
numbers on a note pad. Example; DIME 03-28, QUARTER 00-28 and so on.
You will have a reference handy when you hit the field. You will hear different tones also. It wont take long to get use to the explorer that way. Once you feel comfortable with this, then try the advanced programs. If all else fails, when you restart the machine, hole the on button in for 2 seconds and you will reset the machine back to factory presets. The other thing that needs to be mentioned is get a 5" coil for trashy areas. once you learn this, you
will be digging the good stuff and leaving most trash. However, check foil and pull tab signals if you want rings, gold ect.
I hope this will be helpful.
Savage Pensacola Fl.
Good advice Savage,
if new users took that step by step approach you suggest,
the Explorer wouldn't appear so formidable.
I figure newbies jumping in the deep end too early make up for a lot of folk who give up in frustation with the Explorer,
and I can see that detectorists reading posts to do with all the settings we fiddle about with are going to get "stage fright."
I know of three people who have returned their Explorers to our shop claiming that they really can't cope with the technology.
Some really can't deal with such technology,some get in too deep ~ way too early and confuse themselves, then give up...
The approach that you advocate is right on the button ~ plus you've really GOT to sit down and READ the manual.
Ojm bc don't be discouraged,
if new Explorer drivers take Savages approach, they'll be off to a great start,
then as they get confident ~ step by step head towards more advanced settings.
HH
Snowy
if new users took that step by step approach you suggest,
the Explorer wouldn't appear so formidable.
I figure newbies jumping in the deep end too early make up for a lot of folk who give up in frustation with the Explorer,
and I can see that detectorists reading posts to do with all the settings we fiddle about with are going to get "stage fright."
I know of three people who have returned their Explorers to our shop claiming that they really can't cope with the technology.
Some really can't deal with such technology,some get in too deep ~ way too early and confuse themselves, then give up...
The approach that you advocate is right on the button ~ plus you've really GOT to sit down and READ the manual.
Ojm bc don't be discouraged,
if new Explorer drivers take Savages approach, they'll be off to a great start,
then as they get confident ~ step by step head towards more advanced settings.
HH
Snowy
I've only had mine for a week...So I feel well qualified to comment on this
...I had it for two days before I dug my first "Unknown"??? Target...Well it wasn't entirely unknown...the Exp. told me it was coin/coins, actually it was 1 quarter, 3 nickels,& two dimes..."A personal best for 1 plug"...It rained Sat. so I only got to hunt Sunday & just for a couple hours....Didn't do Great...But didn't do bad either...20 or so coins & a few pieces of junk...1/2 inch copper pipe tee...Aluminum cap that looked like it came off a Mag-Light & a religious pendant "pray for me"...no silver...or good copper pennies...but I wasn't where I thought I'd find anything old..."Newer School"...I'm still learning & will be for a good while....It's not complicated or hard to learn...it just has so many options that it will take time to learn them all...1 option at a time...I'll take the 28 options over one with two or three any day....You're right Snowy...A 5" or "4X7" coil should be a "Must Have" for a newbie...
...I had it for two days before I dug my first "Unknown"??? Target...Well it wasn't entirely unknown...the Exp. told me it was coin/coins, actually it was 1 quarter, 3 nickels,& two dimes..."A personal best for 1 plug"...It rained Sat. so I only got to hunt Sunday & just for a couple hours....Didn't do Great...But didn't do bad either...20 or so coins & a few pieces of junk...1/2 inch copper pipe tee...Aluminum cap that looked like it came off a Mag-Light & a religious pendant "pray for me"...no silver...or good copper pennies...but I wasn't where I thought I'd find anything old..."Newer School"...I'm still learning & will be for a good while....It's not complicated or hard to learn...it just has so many options that it will take time to learn them all...1 option at a time...I'll take the 28 options over one with two or three any day....You're right Snowy...A 5" or "4X7" coil should be a "Must Have" for a newbie...After purchasing a small coil for really trashy areas, you might want to consider getting another graphite lower shaft. I found this to be much easier to switch the coils. Also, about 9 Mont's ago I purchased a 15 min rechargeable battery charger at Wally World. It comes with 4 AA rechargeable battery's, The cost is under $40.00. Pick up 4 Addi tonal battery's, and within 30 min you will be hunting! It wouldn't be a bad idea to purchase a extra battery holder also from your decetor dealer. Happy Hunting Grounds,
Savage
Savage