For Monte or Others:Nickle Ratio

[RLOH]

A short time back I thought I read one of Monte's posts concerning nickle to trash ratio. I remember reading something like a one nickle for every ten nickle type signals. I am more than happy with the performance of the Omega, but I do not like how much trash I dig when I dig solid nickle numbers. I have found almost all of the nickles will be 56 to 57. If it is 57 to 58 it is almost always junk. Try as I might, I seem to dig way too much trash while chasing nickles. After reading this post a month or so ago, I started keeping a rough diary of my nickle to trash ratio and after three or four hunts, I come in about one nickle for every 11 signals I dig. Not very good. I am hunting older spots that are now parks so the beaver tabs, older tabs, and aluminum slaw is abundant. If I could get the Omega dialed in better on nickles, I would call it the PERFECT coin hunter. I usually get discouraged and stop digging the numbers in the nickle range. Any tips will be appreciated. R.L.

 

[chuck ky]

n/t

 

[jim tn]

R.L. You have a better nickel to trash ratio then I have. Admittedly, I am still playing with the Omega and digging a lot of everything, but this morning I dug every lockon 56-57/58 reading and dug 3 nickels, a dozen tabs or pieces of tabs and 9 pieces of can slaw. 1 nickel came in at 56, 1 at 57 and 1 at 57/58. The tabs and slaw locked on as well. And I am not hearing any audio difference, either. ??? HH jim tn

 

[Markmac]

Rl what i have dound on my Omega is that if its a nickle it always ids at 56 or 57 no matter what direction i swing over it.If i swing in one direction and get a 55 or a 58 i agree most times that some type of trash but a comsistent 56 or 57 has found me a lot of nickles.I also find trash looking for nickles because i did any 55 to 58 signal since some rings like my wedding ring has an id of 55 so i guess if you want to lower the trash ratio you may want to only dig 56 and 57 numbers for nickles but trust me the Omega will find nickles.Not to say that some aluminum may hit in that 56 or 57 range but a nickle will always at least for me be consistent in its id in any direction you move the coil over it not going over or under that 56 or 57 number, if not all the time a huge majority of the time.Hope this helps you some and best of luck to you with your Omega,how glad i am that i purchased it over another brand...Markmac

 

[reltolbert]

What number(s) do the Buffalo Nickels have? Is it the same as a regular nickel?

 

[Monte]

Note, FIRST, that I refer to my "modern coin site" hunting and by that I am specifically referencing woodchip and sand-filled playgrounds. These are all sites that get a lot of people activity playing on equipment. Can you find trash? Sure! pencil eraser tops, pull tabs & rectangular pry-tabs, juice packets, and other 'stuff' like cheap costume jewelry as well as some silver and gold jewelry. The primary 'loss' at these sites, however, is the coinage and other pocket-carry items.

Since there are the "modern coin sites' or "flash-money sites" it is much easier to recover a lot of coins and tally what the averages might be by denomination. Also, I can divide the total dollar amount of coins found by the number of coins recovered and that will provide me with an 'average' PCV (Per Coin Value).So, here are some totals form more recent years, especially since you're asking about the 5

 

[jim tn]

I wasn't implying, nor do I think R.L. was either, that the Omega wasn't finding nickels. Hunting old, trashy and hard hunted sites, I have recovered 10 nickels with the Omega in 25 or so hours of hunting time with it. But, as I mentioned, I am also digging a high ratio of trash that reads exactly as nickels do. And this is also checking these readings from other directions. Normally, I don't pay any attention to my coin to trash ratio. I just happened to this morning as I was digging good nickel readings and getting so much trash as the result. I highly suspect that my nickel to trash ratio would be much better when hunting the woodchips, tot lots and the like, but I don't hunt those kind of spots very often. I'm enjoying the Omega. But, like R.L., I, too, was wondering if much more trash to nickels is the norm with the detector. HH jim tn

 

[Monte]

I just happened to this morning as I was digging good nickel readings and getting so much trash as the result. I highly suspect that my nickel to trash ratio would be much better when hunting the woodchips, tot lots and the like, but I don't hunt those kind of spots very often. I'm enjoying the Omega. But, like R.L., I, too, was wondering if much more trash to nickels is the norm with the detector. HH jim tn

Sorry, I sometimes read a post or two and think of how many "typical" coin hunters, who do work the tot-lots and such, seem to complain about trash.

What you and RL are saying is quite true, especially when we are considering the "junk' that all too typically reads similar to the 5

 

[jmaryt]

unfortunately,apparently nothing has changed as these results are typical with all detectors..very difficult to consistently
determine nickles from other trash in a certain number range!.audio seldom if ever provides an additional clue!..its always been my experience
that one must dig trash in order to get nickles consistently...nickles and ferrous junk are virtually identical in audio response in a certain number range.

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[jim tn]

The cz's and F Fishers are the best nickel machines I have ever used. Probably, though, should have dug a few more of those bouncy readings, as I dug 2 nickels this morning with the Omega that I had missed with both the F 75 and 75 LTD. Both were also a little bouncy being in the 4" to 5" depth range and were reading 56-60, but with mostly 57/58 readings.

I will also state that the 5" coil for the Omega may well be the best small coil I have ever used for hunting in the trash. I had used it some while up in Mn and again both yesterday morning and this morning and that little fellow will get right on a piece of trash and still give you a good inkling to dig. I dug a 57 Washington quarter this morning that was within 2" of a drawer handle that was about 3" deep and sticking straight up in the ground. The Washington was about 3" off to the side of the handle and about 4" deep. This quarter was also missed by me and others countless times. I am beginning to with the Omega. HH jim tn

 

[jim tn]

As I kind of alluded to, I have been accustomed to digging a good number of nickels with the cz's, to some extent, with the T 2 and the F 75 and F 75 LTD and not a great deal of trash. It very well could be, though, that I was passing up some nickels (and probably some gold) by digging less trash. I love finding nickels, probably the challenge, and do work hard at it. Thanks again. HH jim tn

 

[Furious T]

Although our Aussie coinage is dirrerent to U.S. coinage, our 10c comes it at the same point as your nickel...ie, on the Omega at 56 or 57. I have found that by hunting in d2 mode, a 10c gives an identifiably better signal than a pulltab, I can almost always guess when it is a 10c, not all the time though. I do most of my hunting in d2, and I think it helps me identify most coins, not just our 10c. That doesn't mean I dont dig any trash...I do! I subsc ribe to the theory that you dont actually know what you've found until you see it. I too get sick of digging pulltabs and other junk, sometimes I do become selective in the targets I investigate by digging, but it all comes down to how thoroughly I want to detect an area and how good my back is feeling at the time.

 

[otlew]

I wonder if the site soil conditions are a factor in this. I notice when I hunt dry sand and I get good tone that is in the nickel range TDI wise, it is a nickel. In the clay soils, it seems it can be either trash or treasure.