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Found my Oldest Copper to date and few other things

Don in SJ

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My last two hunts have been at a very early long forgotten sawmill site, circa 1760's or so. No homestead has been found, just relics and coins from what most likely was just a work area related to the isolated sawmill.
One week ago I got my first coin at this site after two previous hunts yielded a couple of more recently lost Indian Head pennies and 4 shoe and knee buckles from the 1700s.

The first coin was a 1699-1701 William III Halfpenny and on that day, a week ago I also got some beautiful cufflinks, a two hole blowhole type button, and the nicest high quality decorative pewter spoon. Yesterday in the same area I go another piece of a silver plated shoe buckle and two old coppers in the same hole!

The first copper was very thin for a coin and on the XS it was not upper right but middle upper right, so I was fairly certain it was a coin or a large copper button. After I retrieved this copper I rescanned the hole and still had the same type of reading, except now it was a tad more to the upper right but still not where Large Cents register. I scooped out more dirt and the 2nd copper appeared.

After some rather lengthly cleaning processes at home I got good identities on both coppers and when I cleaned the shoe buckle piece, found out that had quite a bit of silver plate left on it.

The first copper, my oldest to date is a CHARLES II IRISH Halfpenny, era 1680-1684, I suspect mine is a 1682, since I thought the the second number appeared a bit while it was wet and holding it at different angles, but I will list it with the date range for record purposes.

The second copper, which at first I thought was just another counterfeit KGII Halfpenny (due to its light weight and diameter) but the bust indicating an Irish KGII Halfpenny and after cleaning, the crown and harp were barely visible on the revervse. Base on the bust being a younghead, its date range is 1736-1755.

The Charles II Irish Halfpenny was 26mm in diameter and weighed only 77.2 grains, and the KGII Irish Halfpenny, also very light at 86.4 grains.

I am including photos of all the finds that are most likely period from the sawmill (early to mid 1700s). This site was abandoned prior to the Rev War.

Don

XS with SE Pro Coil
 
awesome OLD finds Don. Congrats!!
 
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Don-

Those are some great Colonial era finds and you did an excellent job of bringing those coppers back to life. The shoe buckle, spoon and cuff links are remarkably detailed - I wonder if the area had some wealthy folks.

Continued success and happy hunting.
 
Looks like your still having a lot of fun at them Super Old Sites of yours. Congrats on getting your Oldest Copper to date Don!:super: Neat looking Spoon also! Some very neat old stuff you've been finding and hope many more items and coins are waiting for your next return trip. Good Luck and HH to you.
 
Man, u had an awesome day!, for sure :beers:
 
I would have to check my records but hard to believe that even though I never hunt more than roughly 25 miles from home and most hunts around 15 miles that I have found this year 22 Large Coppers, that is ones prior to 1840. No Spanish Silver yet this year for some odd reason. My son, who only gets to hunt maybe an hour after work perhaps 4 times a month has 12 old coppers and one Spanish Silver this year, so between us a great first half, which is usually our best half of the year. Time now to go into semi-retirement till fall, until the underbrush and ticks all subside.

It also has been a great year for relics, my year end post I am hoping will be a good one.

My XS is still running strong!

Don
 
Charles II is the first milled coin from Britain, any earlier and it would have been hammered.. I never do well at mills for some reason...
 
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