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Gamma 6000 or omega 8000?
- Thread starter lorin
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They are both outstanding detectors. I have the Gamma with stock coil, and both the 11 and 5 inch DD coils. It is well worth what you will pay for it, in my opinion. While I haven't used it at a beach yet, I have used it on some softball fields in my area that are covered with black sand. And the sand was wet. I had no problem at all ground balancing. Both detectors are capable of being used on a salt water beach with no problems, as long as you keep the electronics housing dry. There is not much info out on forums about the Gamma, but it is as good as the Omega, just 1 or 2 less bells and whistles. I think the Omega has a frequency shift or something to that effect that the Gamma does not. I also think the Gamma runs a little hotter (sensitive) than the Omega. There are members with much more technical knowledge that may chip in but either one will work fine at a beach. Which ever one you get, you will enjoy it immensely.
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lorin i happen to have both the onega and the gamma.I have had the omega since last march and just recently picked up a gamma about a month ago and i have it outfitted with the 5inch dd coil from my omega three coil pkg.They are both great metal detectors i love the omega and so far im impressed with the gamma i think it will do a fine job for you as well.i havent seen a diff in depth between the two but i havent had the gamma that long but the few times i had to use it i enjoyed it a lot and found several coins at the park i hunt.You cant go wrong with either one.I like the feel ofthe omega slightly better but then again i have used it a lot more and im definetly comfortable with it and know what it can do.The gamma is my back up detector but i seem to grab it as much the past month as i do the omegs i bought it so i could have a diff coil mounted on each one .So far i have only used the gamma with the 5inch dd coil have not had the time or weather now to try the 11inch dd on it but they both take the same coils so i can switch them around which is nice to have.Im thrilled with the teknetics line of detectors from the delta to the gamma or the omega, first texas did these right .....Enjoy using which ever one you have and if you have any other questions please ask here for there are a lot of teknetics users that will help you.....Markmac
lorin, part of the decision will certainly depend upon how much you want to invest. I have both models and use them both. Mainly the Omega that I started with, but I still work with most of the Teknetics models. They are going to work very close to the same on land or beach for typical coin and jewelry hunting needs. There is only a $100 difference in Suggested Retail price, but there can be small likes-and-dislikes that affect us all. I have a friend who doesn't like my Omega as he feels it is noisier and he likes the Gamma better. In his opinion he thinks it is quieter (and it might be, slightly), and he prefers the push-button control differences.
If you look to compare between them, Gamma
Omega, there are some differences. For many, however, some are rather minor in comparison, but you can decide:
Gamma Vs Omega:
Battery Type and Life: Both the Gamma and Omega use One 9-Volt battery and provide 20-25 hours of life. The Gamma has 2- Battery Indicator segments, and the Omega has 4 segments
Target ID and VDI display information: Both the Gamma and Omega feature 8 notch segments of TID info and a 2-digit VDI read-out.
Audio Tone ID selections: Both the Gamma and Omega feature the same 4 Audio Tone selections for use in the motion Discriminate mode.
Notch Discrimination: Both the Gamma and Omega provide the same ability to Notch in or out the same 6 of 8 segments of their TID display.
Sensitivity: While somewhat similar, with both adjusting to a maximum numeric reading of '99', there are differences. The Gamma starts at a read-out of '5' and each Sensitivity increase is a 5-number step from '5' to '90', and then above '90' the Threshold level changes and you can start getting into a more noisy audio from about '94' thru '99.' This adjustment is made using the Menu control button and selecting Sensitivity.
With the Omega, you have a variable Sensitivity control knob for adjustment in either mode. Numbers from '1' to '70' are of a linear scale and the audio Threshold starts to increase differently from a setting of '71' on up. The Sensitivity adjustment is fully variable and does not use a 5-step adjustment change, an the Threshold level starts at an earlier numeric setting. This allows a lot more adjustment range to be used for those who search in an All Metal mode to get a better or fine-tuned Threshold setting.
Discrimination Adjustment Range: With the Gamma, when in the Discriminate mode, you use the Push-button Menu selector to toggle down to Disc. level, then use the - and + push-buttons to decrease or increase the Discriminate level numeric read-out for desired rejection up thru the US Zinc cent.
With the Omega, the right-hand knob adjustment functions as the Mode Selector and Discriminate level adjuster. When clicked out of All Metal auto-tune function, the Disc. rejection is at '1' and can be adjusted to knock out targets up to Zinc cents.
Volume: With the Gamma, you can use the Menu push-button to select Volume and the - and + push-buttons to select a setting fro '0' to '10.' The default Volume level is '10' which is the maximum setting. The selection will apply to both the Discriminate and All Metal modes equally. At a setting of '0' the Speaker is turned Off, and at settings of '1', '2' or '3' the higher-pitched tones will be inaudible or just barely audible (such as a response from a silver half or big silver dollar coin).
With the Omega there is no variable Volume control as the Omega is basically set similar to the maximum '10' default used with the Gamma.
Fe[sub]3[/sub]O[sub]4[/sub] or Amount of Magnetic Mineralization: Both the Gamma and Omega provide a visual read-out of the ground mineral conditions. This is a separate read-out than the two-digit Ground Balance or Ground Phase read-out. Both will display a read-out with the search coil in motion during a search, but for the most accurate read-out you should pump the search coil over the ground
With the Gamma you will see a crossed Pick & Shovel in the upper-right of the display and four indications of VL (very low), L (low mineralization), M (moderate ) and H (high mineralization).
The Omega displays four different length bars in the upper-right of the display for H, M,. L or VL.
Operating Modes and Selection: Both the Gamma and Omega may be operated in a Discriminate mode or All Metal mode. Both of these modes require search coil motion as the All Metal mode relies on auto-tune circuitry. In the Pinpoint mode, there is no auto-tune and motion is not required.
With the Gamma you use the Right-hand Mode select button to pick either the Discriminate or All Metal mode. The turn-on default is the Motion Disc. mode. You also have to use this selector to pick the Ground Grab and Manual Ground Balance adjustment feature, then return to a chosen search mode choice.
With the Omega, the Discriminate/All Metal knob on the right selects the operating mode. There are three touch-pads to the left of the pinpoint touch-pad. The top and bottom are the + and - manual GB adjustment pads, and the center touch-pad is for Ground Grab. With the Omega, you do NOT have to select a menu and then toggle to Ground Grab to make the adjustments as a Ground Grab or manual GB adjustment can be made, at any time, in either the All Metal or Discriminate modes using these three touch-pads.
Ground Grab and Manual GB adjustments: Both the Gamma and Omega provide a very quick, automated Ground Grab feature by pumping the search coil, and the manual Ground Balance adjustment provides much more fine-tune control of 1000 steps. You will see a Ground Balance/Ground Phase adjustment setting number of two digits, but a quick tap of the - and + push-buttons or touch-pads will actually go through 10 steps between each number. For example, let's say you select a Ground Phase number of 68, (with a quick tap up from a setting of '67'). As you tap the increase + number quickly, it will step up to 68.1, 68.2, 68.3 and so on until it just reaches a new read-out of 69.0 which will simply be displayed as '69.'
Differences that only the Omega features: While the Gamma is based on the familiar 'S' rod type of design, the Omega has an upper rod bend angle and separate stand-up handle like their top-of-the-line T2. This does give the Omega a slightly different 'feel' in handling and a slightly larger and different shaped grip.
The Omega provides quick Audio Tone Change from the display face using a touch-pad on the right of the PinPoint selector. This allows the operator to select one of the four Audio Tone functions w/o having to select a separate menu key-pad and scroll to the Tone option.
The Omega has a touch-pad to the right of the Pinpoint selector above the Tone select to chose between two alternate operating frequencies. The default frequency is '1' but you can select '2 or '3' and see if it might help with some EMI instability issues.
In the All Metal mode you can also change the tone Pitch of the audio. If hunting in All Metal, use the Tone setting touch-pad to chose between the default A1 setting or pick from A2. A3 or A4.
Ground Phase/Ground Balance error display is on the lower-left with the Omega. During the search, the detector is tracking the Ground Phase and compares it with the Ground Balance setting in the lower right corner. If the Ground Phase is significantly higher or lower than the GB setting, you will see an indication of bars increase, above or below, the 'normal' line to alert the operator that they might want to make a quick Ground Balance readjustment.
Search Coils: Both the Gamma and Omega use the same four (4) search coils offered for them. The Gamma comes supplied with a round concentric search coil that is about 8" in diameter. The Omega comes standard with an elliptical concentric search coil referred to as 10" in length. Both models can use either of these coils, or an optional round 5" Double-D or the 11' BiAxial Double-D coils.
Okay, done rambling and might have missed an item or two, but there you go with a few differences between the Gamma and Omega.
Monte
If you look to compare between them, Gamma
Omega, there are some differences. For many, however, some are rather minor in comparison, but you can decide:Gamma Vs Omega:
Battery Type and Life: Both the Gamma and Omega use One 9-Volt battery and provide 20-25 hours of life. The Gamma has 2- Battery Indicator segments, and the Omega has 4 segments
Target ID and VDI display information: Both the Gamma and Omega feature 8 notch segments of TID info and a 2-digit VDI read-out.
Audio Tone ID selections: Both the Gamma and Omega feature the same 4 Audio Tone selections for use in the motion Discriminate mode.
Notch Discrimination: Both the Gamma and Omega provide the same ability to Notch in or out the same 6 of 8 segments of their TID display.
Sensitivity: While somewhat similar, with both adjusting to a maximum numeric reading of '99', there are differences. The Gamma starts at a read-out of '5' and each Sensitivity increase is a 5-number step from '5' to '90', and then above '90' the Threshold level changes and you can start getting into a more noisy audio from about '94' thru '99.' This adjustment is made using the Menu control button and selecting Sensitivity.
With the Omega, you have a variable Sensitivity control knob for adjustment in either mode. Numbers from '1' to '70' are of a linear scale and the audio Threshold starts to increase differently from a setting of '71' on up. The Sensitivity adjustment is fully variable and does not use a 5-step adjustment change, an the Threshold level starts at an earlier numeric setting. This allows a lot more adjustment range to be used for those who search in an All Metal mode to get a better or fine-tuned Threshold setting.
Discrimination Adjustment Range: With the Gamma, when in the Discriminate mode, you use the Push-button Menu selector to toggle down to Disc. level, then use the - and + push-buttons to decrease or increase the Discriminate level numeric read-out for desired rejection up thru the US Zinc cent.
With the Omega, the right-hand knob adjustment functions as the Mode Selector and Discriminate level adjuster. When clicked out of All Metal auto-tune function, the Disc. rejection is at '1' and can be adjusted to knock out targets up to Zinc cents.
Volume: With the Gamma, you can use the Menu push-button to select Volume and the - and + push-buttons to select a setting fro '0' to '10.' The default Volume level is '10' which is the maximum setting. The selection will apply to both the Discriminate and All Metal modes equally. At a setting of '0' the Speaker is turned Off, and at settings of '1', '2' or '3' the higher-pitched tones will be inaudible or just barely audible (such as a response from a silver half or big silver dollar coin).
With the Omega there is no variable Volume control as the Omega is basically set similar to the maximum '10' default used with the Gamma.
Fe[sub]3[/sub]O[sub]4[/sub] or Amount of Magnetic Mineralization: Both the Gamma and Omega provide a visual read-out of the ground mineral conditions. This is a separate read-out than the two-digit Ground Balance or Ground Phase read-out. Both will display a read-out with the search coil in motion during a search, but for the most accurate read-out you should pump the search coil over the ground
With the Gamma you will see a crossed Pick & Shovel in the upper-right of the display and four indications of VL (very low), L (low mineralization), M (moderate ) and H (high mineralization).
The Omega displays four different length bars in the upper-right of the display for H, M,. L or VL.
Operating Modes and Selection: Both the Gamma and Omega may be operated in a Discriminate mode or All Metal mode. Both of these modes require search coil motion as the All Metal mode relies on auto-tune circuitry. In the Pinpoint mode, there is no auto-tune and motion is not required.
With the Gamma you use the Right-hand Mode select button to pick either the Discriminate or All Metal mode. The turn-on default is the Motion Disc. mode. You also have to use this selector to pick the Ground Grab and Manual Ground Balance adjustment feature, then return to a chosen search mode choice.
With the Omega, the Discriminate/All Metal knob on the right selects the operating mode. There are three touch-pads to the left of the pinpoint touch-pad. The top and bottom are the + and - manual GB adjustment pads, and the center touch-pad is for Ground Grab. With the Omega, you do NOT have to select a menu and then toggle to Ground Grab to make the adjustments as a Ground Grab or manual GB adjustment can be made, at any time, in either the All Metal or Discriminate modes using these three touch-pads.
Ground Grab and Manual GB adjustments: Both the Gamma and Omega provide a very quick, automated Ground Grab feature by pumping the search coil, and the manual Ground Balance adjustment provides much more fine-tune control of 1000 steps. You will see a Ground Balance/Ground Phase adjustment setting number of two digits, but a quick tap of the - and + push-buttons or touch-pads will actually go through 10 steps between each number. For example, let's say you select a Ground Phase number of 68, (with a quick tap up from a setting of '67'). As you tap the increase + number quickly, it will step up to 68.1, 68.2, 68.3 and so on until it just reaches a new read-out of 69.0 which will simply be displayed as '69.'
Differences that only the Omega features: While the Gamma is based on the familiar 'S' rod type of design, the Omega has an upper rod bend angle and separate stand-up handle like their top-of-the-line T2. This does give the Omega a slightly different 'feel' in handling and a slightly larger and different shaped grip.
The Omega provides quick Audio Tone Change from the display face using a touch-pad on the right of the PinPoint selector. This allows the operator to select one of the four Audio Tone functions w/o having to select a separate menu key-pad and scroll to the Tone option.
The Omega has a touch-pad to the right of the Pinpoint selector above the Tone select to chose between two alternate operating frequencies. The default frequency is '1' but you can select '2 or '3' and see if it might help with some EMI instability issues.
In the All Metal mode you can also change the tone Pitch of the audio. If hunting in All Metal, use the Tone setting touch-pad to chose between the default A1 setting or pick from A2. A3 or A4.
Ground Phase/Ground Balance error display is on the lower-left with the Omega. During the search, the detector is tracking the Ground Phase and compares it with the Ground Balance setting in the lower right corner. If the Ground Phase is significantly higher or lower than the GB setting, you will see an indication of bars increase, above or below, the 'normal' line to alert the operator that they might want to make a quick Ground Balance readjustment.
Search Coils: Both the Gamma and Omega use the same four (4) search coils offered for them. The Gamma comes supplied with a round concentric search coil that is about 8" in diameter. The Omega comes standard with an elliptical concentric search coil referred to as 10" in length. Both models can use either of these coils, or an optional round 5" Double-D or the 11' BiAxial Double-D coils.
Okay, done rambling and might have missed an item or two, but there you go with a few differences between the Gamma and Omega.
Monte