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Have a friend who just got a Minelab Exp.II and is finding deeper older coins than I am. Any suggestions as to how I can go deeper?
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If you are in higher mineralized soil,(which I believe you are) switch to a larger coil, or better yet, switch to a double-D coil.The latter will help with the higher mineralization. Take your time. Go slow. Build a test garden, that way you will see how silver and copper coins react at different depths to your machine in "YOUR" type of soil. Once you become proficient with the 1500 or 2500 and understand its limitations, you will find incredible amounts of coins at great depths. There is no other coin machine out there that will find as many coins as the 1500. And....it is so much fun to use. And, I also own a Whites and Minelab too! The imaging, size, depth etc. is a form of entertainment in itself. Just remember that depth alone does not make a machine great. It is a combination of many other facters incorperated into a machine that make it a "GOOD ONE" Just a warning though, the GTI is very addictive! <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
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<img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="
"> John,
Good post, I only hope that my 1500 comes soon. <img src="/metal/html/cry.gif" border=0 width=40 height=15 alt=":cry"> I am still saving.
You be the 1500 man!!
HI OOOOOO Silver
Lar <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
"> John,Good post, I only hope that my 1500 comes soon. <img src="/metal/html/cry.gif" border=0 width=40 height=15 alt=":cry"> I am still saving.
You be the 1500 man!!
HI OOOOOO Silver
Lar <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
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If you have the time, look at the finds that John has accumulated over the past year. I think you will find that he knows from where he speaks.
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By far finds are a result of time spent detecting and sites that have something to find. I sure won't argue John doesn't do great but what you find and how much is never a very good argument.
In fact, it may just be the opposite as what you think when you look at finds in general. John's finds are very good, and I will agree they do stand out on this forum, but they would not on the Explorer forum. There he would be just one of the many who posts a wide variety of great finds. So to say a Garrett is great because of one persons finds, and what he believes, doesn't do it for me.
ps I have a friend who swung a Bandido for a few years and I'm still trying to catch up to him. Problem is his sites are different and certain things I never expect to see dug here. Just the way it is.
In fact, it may just be the opposite as what you think when you look at finds in general. John's finds are very good, and I will agree they do stand out on this forum, but they would not on the Explorer forum. There he would be just one of the many who posts a wide variety of great finds. So to say a Garrett is great because of one persons finds, and what he believes, doesn't do it for me.
ps I have a friend who swung a Bandido for a few years and I'm still trying to catch up to him. Problem is his sites are different and certain things I never expect to see dug here. Just the way it is.
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Detecting is 90% operator and 10% detector. You can't find treasure where treasure ain't regardless of what you swing. The vast majority of dropped coins and goodies are well within the reach of most any machine out there. I've found coins from the 1700's at two inches and clad at ten inches, all in the same area.
There is this mystique that all old coins are buried halfway to China just because they are old. Tain't true. I've been at this for over 40 years in several states and coins are where you find them and it's just that simple. There is no mystery to it and no matter how many times you cover a given area you will never get everything that is there unless you dig up every square inch of soil and sift it. It's a physical impossibility.
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There is this mystique that all old coins are buried halfway to China just because they are old. Tain't true. I've been at this for over 40 years in several states and coins are where you find them and it's just that simple. There is no mystery to it and no matter how many times you cover a given area you will never get everything that is there unless you dig up every square inch of soil and sift it. It's a physical impossibility.
Bill
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Yeah John depth don't mean squat if your detector can't see it.
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I think John secretly receives commissions from Garrett. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
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Zip, nadda & nothing. I do love to post pics of my finds though. Thats fun too!
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Findmall is the semi-official Minelab forum. Minelab sponsors contests here for Minelab owners and the other manufacturers don't. It seems to me that a higher precentage of Minelab owners look at findmall as their main forum (with good reason). As a result more Minelab owners post pictures of their finds here than at other forums, so you can't just go by the number finds posted in each forum.
Another way to look at this is to go over to the depot and look at the number finds posted in the minelab forum over there compared to the other forums. You won't much difference.
Now does any of this mean that one detector is better than another - the answer is no, all it shows is where owners of certain brands tend to post pictures of their finds.
And for the record, I have an Explorer XS and a GTI-1500. I use them both regularily, and oftens search the same site with both detectors and have found some keepers on the second pass with each machine that the other missed or made seem like the target wasn't worth digging the first time around.
Another way to look at this is to go over to the depot and look at the number finds posted in the minelab forum over there compared to the other forums. You won't much difference.
Now does any of this mean that one detector is better than another - the answer is no, all it shows is where owners of certain brands tend to post pictures of their finds.
And for the record, I have an Explorer XS and a GTI-1500. I use them both regularily, and oftens search the same site with both detectors and have found some keepers on the second pass with each machine that the other missed or made seem like the target wasn't worth digging the first time around.
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I have to agree with Bill. It has been said that Charles Garrett could take his detector and skunk you every time and then take your detector and skunk you with it every time.
Don't get hung up on the depth thing. Sure, some old coins have slipped deep, but so have some modern clad coins. Garrett will get them just as deep as any other detector, you just have to know what to listen for. Learn your machine and it will bring up the goodies for you. My Dad used to tell me " Son, it's not the length of the rope or the depth of the well, but how you dangle the bucket!!!"
Don't get hung up on the depth thing. Sure, some old coins have slipped deep, but so have some modern clad coins. Garrett will get them just as deep as any other detector, you just have to know what to listen for. Learn your machine and it will bring up the goodies for you. My Dad used to tell me " Son, it's not the length of the rope or the depth of the well, but how you dangle the bucket!!!"
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there is no perfect detector out there.
I rate detectors by my own rating system:
weight , balance, ease of use, depth, coils you can get for it, price vs performance, warranty, etc.
Everybody can choose whats important to him because
there are many differend detectors to choose from.
The minelab vs garrett thing:
1. You can swing a garrett faster than a minelab
2. A garrett it easy to use.I mean give a garrett out of the box to somebody new to detecing, put the batteries in, press power and let him go. I bet he will find a coin in a short time.
How long will it take for a person new to detecting to master a minelab?
3. We all know for max depth with a minelab you have to swing it slow.That means to me you may find a coin deeper but you need more time to cover the field.
What i want to say is find the detector that does the job for YOU.
I like the Garrett 1250 with 4.5 inch coil for trashy sides.Its a great coin detector.
I ordered the new 1350 to see how it performs for me.
I like the whites MXT too.
But i wouldn't buy a minelab for ME because of the weight and the fact that you have to swing it slow.
Andy
I rate detectors by my own rating system:
weight , balance, ease of use, depth, coils you can get for it, price vs performance, warranty, etc.
Everybody can choose whats important to him because
there are many differend detectors to choose from.
The minelab vs garrett thing:
1. You can swing a garrett faster than a minelab
2. A garrett it easy to use.I mean give a garrett out of the box to somebody new to detecing, put the batteries in, press power and let him go. I bet he will find a coin in a short time.
How long will it take for a person new to detecting to master a minelab?
3. We all know for max depth with a minelab you have to swing it slow.That means to me you may find a coin deeper but you need more time to cover the field.
What i want to say is find the detector that does the job for YOU.
I like the Garrett 1250 with 4.5 inch coil for trashy sides.Its a great coin detector.
I ordered the new 1350 to see how it performs for me.
I like the whites MXT too.
But i wouldn't buy a minelab for ME because of the weight and the fact that you have to swing it slow.
Andy
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And we certainly appreciate it John.
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There are so many variables in detecting we will never sort much out on a forum.
Your post also made me think of how all (most anyway) the Explorer users that post are from the North and mostly hunt parks. Post a button on there and most don't have a clue what it is. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=""> Just because it's not their main interest.
I too had the 1500 and did great and for the longest time I went back and fourth between the two. Overtime I got to know the explorer well enough that I was sure I was getting everything the Garrett could see, but I didn't think the 1500 was getting all targets the Minelab would detect, so I sold the Garrett.
Your post also made me think of how all (most anyway) the Explorer users that post are from the North and mostly hunt parks. Post a button on there and most don't have a clue what it is. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="
"> Just because it's not their main interest.I too had the 1500 and did great and for the longest time I went back and fourth between the two. Overtime I got to know the explorer well enough that I was sure I was getting everything the Garrett could see, but I didn't think the 1500 was getting all targets the Minelab would detect, so I sold the Garrett.
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I understood the post to be a request for help. I believe from John's finds that he is qualified to offer some advice on the 1500. Sorry yours didn't work out for you.
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I did fantastic with my 1500 and as a matter of fact It paid for itself inside three weeks of owning it. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=""> I just don't limit myself in trying other things and the Explorer could do just a little bit more.
"> I just don't limit myself in trying other things and the Explorer could do just a little bit more.
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Yeah and if the operator can't figure out why it isn't seeing the targets then he finds even less. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">
Bill
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