gold ring info for the ace 250

[Gene]

If you are talking about rectangular tabs David it does.
The tab needs to be fairly flat in the ground in my estimation.
Works best for me without using VCO pinpoint.
When I get a suspected rectangular tab under the coil I
pinpoint it accurately. Then I sweep across it from at least
2 angles getting a feel of the shape. A rectangular tab will
have a very short signal in one direction and quite a bit longer
sweeping down the entire length of it. I maintain a steady and
somewhat slower swing when I am sizing it up. I imagine in
my mind how it is positioned in the ground. Once I determine
what I believe it is I dig it. After awhile i have gotten a lot of confidence
calling a rectangular tab for what it is before I dig it. This works
for me with a concentric coil and I hope it would work for you too.
May take just a little time as there is so much trash in the ground.
That's where the gold is though too I have found out.
Good hunting to you David and all that may read this ! Gene

 

[Gene]

That's a very good ring estimation with your Excal lazyaussie.
I am thinking that possibly the tones and the fade rate may
help you somewhat there. I know when I had a Sovereign that
foil sounded kind of sick and that helped me get gold rings in
the foil range. On land I have used a detector without a meter for
hunting gold rings for about 4 seasons and did very well with it.
I put a nickel on top of my foot and under my sock and compared
that nickel signal to what I was hearing in the ground. That helped
me make a determination between a nickel, pencil ferrule and small
gold. Worked better than I could possibly imagine. Just listening to the fade rate.
I am willing to try almost anything and will keep using what works for
me. Listening very close is the key for me. I started using a detector
without a meter and have learned to depend more on what I hear than
what I see. Maybe this is something you can use.
Good hunting to you ! Gene

 

[dahut]

If you are talking about rectangular tabs David it does.
The tab needs to be fairly flat in the ground in my estimation.
Works best for me without using VCO pinpoint.
When I get a suspected rectangular tab under the coil I
pinpoint it accurately. Then I sweep across it from at least
2 angles getting a feel of the shape. A rectangular tab will
have a very short signal in one direction and quite a bit longer
sweeping down the entire length of it. I maintain a steady and
somewhat slower swing when I am sizing it up. I imagine in
my mind how it is positioned in the ground. Once I determine
what I believe it is I dig it. After awhile i have gotten a lot of confidence
calling a rectangular tab for what it is before I dig it. This works
for me with a concentric coil and I hope it would work for you too.
May take just a little time as there is so much trash in the ground.
That's where the gold is though too I have found out.
Good hunting to you David and all that may read this ! Gene

This is interesting Gene. The one thing I have always wished for o nthe Garrett is a more expressive audio. They give what I like to call "on or off" responses - which makes subtle nuances difficult. Im looking at my 1350 in a whole new way, though, with this emphasis of late on gold and trash. SO perhaps your pinpoint trick will actually make a difference. Lets hope so - so far I havent found much in the audio itself that does.

 

[Uncle Willy]

Yeah I've got a homemade gold ring I found awhile back. Looks like the guy melted a nugget and hand formed it. It's real soft so must be 22 or 24 KT.

Bill

 

[lazyaussie]

Gene yeah the excal gives great audio in the water i get a feeling on a signal maybe once a hunt & say yep that's gold & more often than not I'm right.
a question for you guys what do ya think about DD vs concentric coils for gold my preference is for a DD they just seem to pick em up better with the concentric i find unless your right over the gold it wont signal ???.
lazyaussie

 

[Gene]

Not much in the newer Garretts audio that would tell you much about the target.
Just strong on and off like you say. Not sure if you can size a pulltab with an
elliptical coil or not David. I have always used as a concentric coil to do it.
If you use a detector that lets you select between VCO and regular pinpoint I
would choose regular pinpoint. Some detectors are better at doing that than others.
Works good for me. Just try to imagine the shape in your mind as you watch the
coil sweep. Hope it works for you. I hunt in some fields that are loaded with
rectangular tabs and I almost feel like I am cheating somehow by being able
to size them this way. Like I say some detectors do better than others on this.
Let me know if you have any questions David. I would like nothing better than to
know that this works for you. Good hunting to you ! Gene

 

[blake_mulder]

I'm sure some of the above methods can help id the good from the bad, but if your searching in a park where there is a high concentration of trash, your good signals might be masked by trash sitting nearby, and you leave that nice fat gold ring for someone else to dig up - surely the only certain way to get that gold is to dig ALL signals, and be safe in the knowledge you left no stone unturned, as it were...

 

[slingshot]

I'm sure some of the above methods can help id the good from the bad, but if your searching in a park where there is a high concentration of trash, your good signals might be masked by trash sitting nearby, and you leave that nice fat gold ring for someone else to dig up - surely the only certain way to get that gold is to dig ALL signals, and be safe in the knowledge you left no stone unturned, as it were...

Good point. Another thing-if you hunt a place regularly the item won't be there to bother you the next time and over a small period of time almost trash free. I have one school where there's an area the size of a football field that I can hunt in a/m because I did this regularly and now it's a pleasure to hunt.

 

[Gene]

Good point guys. I have a football field that I have hunted over the years
that has been thinned out considerably. There are so few signals that
every now and then I have to check and see if my detector is still working.

 

[Gene]

I think that if you don't have a lot of bottlecaps to contend with the DD will
work well for you. Most DD coils I have used like bottlecaps.

 

[lazyaussie]

not to many b/tops just tabs & can slaw.