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Goldfield relics!

Golden

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Hello all, managed to get away for a few hours to the goldfields, and detected a small fire effected area to see what we might come up with. Relics were easy to find, without dense scrub getting in the way, and all the relics where found in an area, that we'd gone over many times. Guess you never get them all! I've got a doosey for you, a relic I have no idea what it is. Can anyone help me? Thanks for looking!
Golden:detecting::)
 
Golden, you did it again. Good bunch of finds, and as bad as that fire was, it cleared the brush so you could get to the goods, and maybe some of these nice trees will come back, hopefully. I'd have to agree with John on that one piece that looks like part of a saxophone or some kind of brass instrument or wind instrument of some kind. It almost looks a little big for a sax, but I'm not sure, It could be from a tuba or something large like that. I love that round piece with the 3.99 number on it. Hmmmmm. Wonder what it is. You don't think it's one of those old brothel tokens from way back? Very interesting, and quite a banner day for you and the relics. Marc.:twodetecting:
 
Golden I gotta ask you a dumb question. I think this is dumb, because, from what you've told me in the past, what I've seen in your pictures, and others, and my own intuitive, more or less common sense, but I still want to ask it, because I think your one of the main relic people on this fourm. I know you told me to clean my medalian, which I may have gotten stolen from my glove box when my car was broken into last month, , but you said I should use WD 40 and be careful with it. Can I assume that anything copper, brass, silver, or whatever SHOULD NOT, be cleaned with anything like a heavy duty coper or brass or silver cleaner, because it would shine them up too much and destroy the value. I know I keep nawing at this cleaning thing, probably because I know it can adversley affect coin value, if you clean too much and take off the so called natural look of the coin. Is it the same here for relics? I'm even baffelled on the coin cleaning thing, because I read from a seemingly well informed guy where he wouldn't clean copper coins too much but he'd clean silver coins and felt he could get away with it. I'm all ears, and very curious to yours or anyone else's comments on this darn cleaning thing whether it involves coins, relics, or artifacts. It seems like it's extremely touchy, and depends on how much, and how far you clean it, and what color and stuff you end up with. Man, this is a real pain in the butt issue for me, but seems to be EXTREMELY, important if we're dealing with anything valuable. Please be paitint with me cause I'm a dumb dumb in this area. I've read all the responses to mine and other posts on the subject, but I'm still nervouse about cleaning anything that might be valuable and especially with the electrolysis method, although that seems to be the only way I could get some of the patina, and really bad crud off of some of my coins. Ok, I'm done talking. Thanks for all your patience, and I'm gonna go back to my cage now and pray, for myself and wait for an answer. :| I know I shouldn't get you all too stired up on stuff, but darn it, this is too important an issue to neglect, I belive.
 
after I posted on the forum the photo of the "what's it?", hubby had a good guess at the relic, and like John Beachguy said it might be part of a brass instrument, he thought, possibily saxaphone. It measures just under 10cm in length. So I reckon you've all hit the nail on the head somehow. Beachguy, the object with the numbers on it is a silver coin, that's been discoloured from the fire. It's a threepence, hence the large number three. But you'll note the date on either side of the coin reads 1899, the year the coin was minted. The fourth photo down is of an old lighter I believe, or case for the wax match sticks. I love the swan design, which is on both sides of the relic.The lid also features the sky with the moon on it. It's very pretty to look at, but unfortunately, was also effected by fire, as most of the relics found there were. I reckon everyone would have had a ball with all the interesting signals we come across. The photo that features a lot of relics together, the round ceramic balls were just lying on the ground, and I'd picked them up by hand. So was the dolls head of a gent with a hat on. And the glass button. I reckon with a bit of scouting around, there'd be more to find like that.
I'd still have a go at the WD40 Marc, for the smaller relics, and coins, of any metal. It's gentle enough to clean with, and won't errode the relic with rubbing, but as I've said before, wipe the dirt off as you go, as the dirt can scratch the relic if you're not careful. I've got a problem with some of my silver coins, a florin and a few threepences and sixpences. All are soaking in olive oil, as was suggested to me, but the built up crusty stuff is very difficult to get rid of, and I'm afraid there's nothing that's going to get these cleaned 100%. Shame, as you can see the coins are in good shape, the details stand out in places. As for the larger relics, like your axe heads for example, the electrolosis method works quite well, or you could try a mixture of part mollasis and water. But I'd personally put the relic in 100% mollases for several weeks. The suger seems to eat away at the rust and grime. I know of farmers who use this method to clean old tools. It was suggested to me by one. I wouldn't use silver cleaners to vigorously on silver coins, as it could wear the silver. WD40 works very well on copper coins. Cleaned all my copper chinese coins, and pennys, and was very happy with the result.
Golden:)
 
You've obviously been watching Back To The Future! Coincidentally I call most things a flux capacitor when I don't know what something is. You must have read my mind!:rofl::)
 
By the way, thanks to all for your replies. After analysing the relic, hubby come to the conclusion that it might be something to do with a sax, or similar instrument. At first glance, I thought it looked like a praying mantus with huge feelers!:)
 
That's pretty darn funny, Golden!:crazy::clapping::yikes:I'll bet you thought it was a "petrified praying mantus". Hee, hee. Isn't it fun how we can still joke about stuff and get a little extra milage on some of this stuff. Well, I guess what you better do, is go and hide it in a bag, about SIX FEET, deep along with those gold nuggets you found last month. Ha, ha, I gotya, so now you owe me a good trick or two. I know you'll catch me, it's just a matter of time.:geek:P.S. And Golden, be careful while your digging, not to dig up that Atomic Bomb that the guy on the Ausie forum was searching for.:rofl::tongue::clapping::(
 
Golden, you know it's probably my own paranoia, but you gotta know I love and respect you to no end. You K N O W, that I'm just poking fun at you, please know that!!!!! I have so little fun in my life these days, I guess I just jump at the opportunity to "rib" somebody, when I can. "By the way, in the states here that means "kidd arround" with someone. That's all I'm doing here, so I just hope we're on the same page. I think the world of you Golden, and you know I havn't even found one tiny grain of gold yet, let alone some nice gold nuggets. The only ones I've seen are from that gold hunter detector friend of mine that found them while panning for gold. I just want you and everyone to know that I'm just riling you up a bit to "get your goat", so to speak, or in your case, maybe it's get your kangaroo. God, I can't stop, can I, but your just that much fun to tease a bit.
 
I have been using the phrase for quite some time but i think it is the first time i've used it on these forums and yes, I stole it from BTTF.I don't want any cpotright infringement problems...LOL... I use to use "the gonkulator" prior to this.I stole that one from Hogans Heroes..LOL

HH Rick
 
Thanks Golden, for you "always considerate" response. I personally love your detail, because it often gets down to detail with this stuff. I'll try and find my medallion and use the WD on it, but I have cleaned copper and clad nickels with the electrolysis method and it seems to take off most of the really tough, rough, patina, and really hard crud, but it sometimes starts to eat into the good metal a little and leaves a pretty obvious shiny area where the really bad patina or hardened crud used to be. I guess it's still pretty risky business to use this method. I like your molasses idea. I'll need to go get some and start working on this stuff. I really believe that all of this cleaning stuff is partly dependent on how long and how much you clean it, and like you say, if you rub it with crud or sand on it, it can scratch the object. Whewwwww. Could be pretty important stuff if it's a really valuable piece. Thanks again.
 
Hey, I'll give you ten points if you can tell me what popular American sit-com that the crazy guy in Back to the Future played in quite a few years back. I'll give you a hint: It had something to do with driving. I think his initals of his stage name in the show was JI. Come on "you guys", you know who I'm talking about.:|Marc Trainor.
 
What, what did I say?:| You know I'm always serious, Golden.:crazy::super::rofl:, Ok I lied, but I'm lost again. I get mixed up on what post's go where on this darn thing. Boy, do I ever need to "get a life", hugh!;)
 
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