Bought a new ACE 250 from a guy I know in Richmond, Indiana. New in the box, and never used. Good deal. Now if I can learn how to use it. Got the DVD, so that will help. Hey Mike, I am going to contact your dealer in Michigan and see what he can do for me with the Minelab. I couldn't pass up the 250, but will see what your man can do for me with the 'lab.