Miser67 said:
I'm curious if it mixes nickels and modern pulltabs together.
I bet it does.
The double holed sta-tabs that usually comes in around the lower to mid 30's I assume.
The beaver tail tabs usually come in a bit higher, the 40's on most other Fishers.
I am hoping this one works the same as the behavior I see on my other Fishers.
90% or more of all the tabs, other junk too like foil and can slaw if it is irregular shaped, will not come in stable and stay within a 2-3 number jump only when swinging over them.
Most of the time you will get much more jumpy numbers than that and after digging thousands of targets that became sort of a rule for me.
If it jumps too much I leave it in the ground and my rule and limit is a 3 number jump.
I could be missing some good targets but overall I have dug a ton of great targets, including way more than my share of gold, while avoiding about 80-90% of the garbage out there in some very trashy sites.
You have to do this correctly...targets meet to be centered under the middle of the coil and swung over at the right speed because almost any target could jump a lot if not done right.
I believe the Fishers all have a language that is similar and can be learned, but there is also a hidden language that many don't know about and much information can be obtained about trash targets and even many good targets deeper if you learn this hidden language and the behavior you see on the screens.
After about 1000 hours on the F2 and hundreds with my F70 I believe I have a pretty good handle on this hidden language stuff.
If you saw what I have found with my 2 Fishers, (over 20 gold rings, tons of silver jewelry and close to $1000 worth of coins both old and modern), in only the last few years, AND the huge amount of trash I have left in the ground and avoided digging while doing it this way you would believe me.
Just recently I have proved this theory at a special site with tons of tabs.
At a school site I have hunted more times than I could count with a very old football field and two large soccer fields back to back all along the sidelines I have picked up gold, silver and a ton of coins using the F2 for hours.
I dug a lot of both kinds of tabs in that time, like I said many of them will stay solid and within that 3 number jump, but I left uncountable amounts of them in the ground.
For the last year or so I have put the F2 away and returned with the F70 and went over the entire area again several times.
I have found a lot of clad I missed and even a few more pieces of silver jewelry most of that a bit deeper.
As far as tabs I have found that my F70 seems to be way better at zeroing in on these things than my F2 was.
Lots of them still jump more than 3 numbers and after digging a ton of these at first to make sure I am pretty confident that these types are still junk and avoided them most of the time after that.
The interesting thing about all this is I am now picking up large amount of tabs that are stable and stay within that 3 number rule.
They were always there but the upper end Fisher is just a bit better at locking in on these than the F2 ever was.
I dig every one of these at this site looking for stable signal gold and now I have dug a bunch but the surprising thing is that every one has been a tab of some kind so far.
Every one.
Not one target has come up in these numbers yet that was not a tab.
This tells me that I still can avoid lots of trash by staying in my 3 number rule using the F70 but there will be a bit more trash digging simply because the F70 can lock on a bit better to some of these that the F2 couldn't.
The great thing is using the F2 by learning that hidden language and watching the screen for other obscure clues I also observed I seem to have managed to successfully avoid most of the problem tab trash at this site by knowing it's behavior so well.
Again, I could miss a good target here or there at any site doing it this way but I don't care.
I spend way more time digging better percentage targets and spend way less time and energy digging trash while finding a ton more great targets than I ever did in the past when I really was a "dig it all" kind of hunter so I am fine with it.
My hope is that this new line of Fishers, including the F44 I am aiming for, has the basic Fisher language I know so well but hopefully also has another hidden language I can observe and figure out and use to my advantage.
I sure hope it does.
No disc but only the ability to notch out whole sections 10 numbers at a time could make for some tricky hunting and more garbage digging at very trashy sites when I am looking for gold, but if this one does behave similar to the F2 and jump pretty good while scanning the bulk of the trash out there it would be a wash.
I really plan on using this in the water mostly without using any notching but there are times I will be hunting dirt in the rain or wander over regular sites with it so learning its behavior is just as important to me with this one as any other detector I have ever held.
I believe learning any detector you swing as well as possible and never stop is just the way you are supposed to do this hobby, my way anyway, and by doing it this way for me the rewards have been way beyond my wildest dreams.
New unit, New kind of coil, new behavior to get a chance to learn...can't wait!
