gravityrulz, to your Classic IDX/IDX Pro Vs Coinmaster Pro question.

[Monte]

Monte, although the OP didn't ask, would you consider the Classic IDX a 'worthwhile improvement' over a CM Pro? I know you would for nail infested sites, but what about for typical urban hunting?

Yes, without hesitation, Yes.

The White's Classic SL series had two especially good models the Classic ID and IDX Pro. In the race to try and keep up with the yellow critter Garrett introduced, then dropped the Classic series line and went with the Prizm series. The gal who designed the electronics for it, in my opinion, didn't have a working knowledge of how metal detectors ought to work, because the Prizm's [size=small](except for the 6T)[/size] had a delayed response compared with the Classic series quick-response and fast-recovery,

They also had some other weak design concepts, like a segmented Disc. to the variable Disc. of the Classics, and the terrible side-located headphone jack on the control housing to the excellent rear-positioned headphone jack of the Classic series. Oh, they also had two separate GB settings, one for the All Metal/Pinpoint mode and one for the motion-based Discriminate mode. Often I found these control settings to be 'off' or inconsistent, and occasionally causing falsing of a Prizm.

The all-black Prizm series was cosmetically replaced by the burgundy Coinmaster series. Better looking color scheme [size=small](I know, they asked for my input on that and they had a vast array of colored housing to pick from!)[/size], but the workings were still the original icky Prizm performance.

You are correct that the Classic's had a definite 'edge' in a nail infested challenge, but that also means they had a 'edge' in any trashy environment. Yes, for urban Coin Hunting I definitely preferred the Classic, usually relying on a modified Classic ID or IDX Pro over ANY of the Coinmasters.

Does the Coinmaster Pro work? Yes, and it will find coins, but any half-way savvy detector operator will easily feel uncomfortable with how it works and why it works the way it does.

Monte

 

[tabman]

Monte is on target in his above post. I've used something like Monte's 'Test Nail Board' and substituted the nails with a beaver tail pull tab, a square pull tab, a nail, a modern pull tab, a rusty ply cap and some can slaw. The typical type trash you might find at a old park that holds silver coins. I set the discrimination just high enough discriminate out all the trash and placed a silver dime in the middle of the trash and did some testing with my array of detectors. The results ended up as I expected. I've been wanting to try a Whites Classic III SL with the 6 inch search coil. In my opinion detectors with multi-tone ID with digital ID readouts are useless at real trashy parks. They work OK at air testing and at sites where there is not a lot of trash. There are still some really good targets remaining at sites that have been pounded to death, you just need to try something a little different to unmask them. The lower the discrimination setting the better.

tabman