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Has anyone noticed falsing in frozen ground?

digitrich

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First trip out of the year with my SE. Went to a spot that was flooded with 8 inches of water, another spot that was completely frozen, yet another with a dug up 1850 foundation, now a pile of extremely wet clay about eight feet tall and a hundred yards long, my son literally lost his shoe in the mud. The last shows promise, lots of antique broken bottles and such. So finally, we went to a spot that I've hunted lots of times, I know there are hundreds of wheat pennies there, and a smidge of silver, We found nothing, just a little trash. The machine kept falsing and just seemed confused, and then I realized, the same thing happened to it back last fall when the ground had just froze up, it was doing the same falsing, regardless of settings. Where I did find targets was in the thawed places, and whenever I ran across frozen areas it stopped working properly, almost like the ice in the soil was deflecting the coil signal or something. Has anyone else noticed that happen on there SE or explorer??
 
I think why this is happening is due to all the frozen water in the ground making everything including Iron have more of a Halo built up around the items that are buried and the water makes everything more conductive. This makes everything more harder for the detector to sound off like it should and it produces these false signals. I think the detector see's some of these items as possibly good targets but then will get a better indication of what the make-up of the item is at the last moment and give these types of false signals. Just my opinion on this and it could work differently in different areas, which I also have seen. But for the most part, MORE WATER=MORE CONDUCTIVITY leading up to FALSE SIGNALS. Hope this helps and Good Luck and HH.:thumbup:
 
My SE seems to do well in wet soils but as soon as that water freezes, that's when I really notice it falsing. I was just cleaning the mud and stuff off of my SE when I noticed the end of my coil wire has a short. The coil is an 8" concentric Excellerator I got from Kelly co a couple months ago (nice coil by the way). Where there's a metal five pin connector at the top of the wire, it is missing one half, like the little metal screws fell out and I lost the other half. So the wires are loose and probably shorting out. I looked at my Sun Ray coils and although it's the same metal five pin connectors, their's are heated rubber shrink wrapped most likely to stop this exact thing from occurring.
 
The ground is frozen under the top inch of soil. My Expl II worked same as always. I was using the Sunray S-12. I used it in auto as well as manual and can't really say I saw any difference with the ground being frozen although I am sure it must have an affect of some type.
 
You may have to go to your local Electronics Store and see if they have the part you need. But it sounds like you may have to send it in and have it repaired if it indeed is shorting out. That's bad news, especially at the beginning of the detecting season. Good Luck and HH.
 
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