Have chance to hunt very old site.. Need C$ info...

[Joseph in Alabama]

Hey guys I have opportunity to hunt a very old store site..will be using a C$ can anyone tell me what numbers and tone I should be looking for/using to find gold coins..many thanks. Joe

 

[JJdigs]

Just dig everything, that's where gold likes to hide. Every gold item I have dug I never expected it to be gold !

 

[MarkCZ]

Here is a screen shot of the meter on a Teknetics 9000/B on many of the older models they showed the gold coin range as well as copper and silver.

Mark

 

[Mike Hillis]

CoinStrike likes round things. If there isn't too much iron, turn averaging on and dig anything that sticks to stable numbers. If there is a lot of iron, turn averaging off, and still look for those repeatables.

Forget a number range....if it sticks to stable numbers, its round.

Good luck,
HH
Mike

 

[Joseph in Alabama]

n/t

 

[Mike Hillis]

n/t

 

[Joseph in Alabama]

Hey Guys thanks for the C$ info ...has been to hot/humity here in Alabama to hit the old store site..was wondering if there was a known sweet spot for the C$ while hunting in iron sites.. for example on the t2 the sweet spot for iron is around 21 or 22 I think.....any info is appreciated....joe

 

[oneton]

I know what you mean with the heat it hit 95 today here in Louisiana detecting is the last thing on my mind.

 

[cookie58]

On the C$. Is there any replacement coils available? Thanks.......

 

[MarkCZ]

On the C$. Is there any replacement coils available? Thanks.......

The only aftermarket that I know of was the Sun-Ray CS-5. Now if your looking to just replace a bad coil then finding one new may be a problem, I do see used ones on ebay from time to time, with a little modification at the coil connector you can use a coil from an ID-Edge too.

Mark

 

[trojdor]

... with a little modification at the coil connector you can use a coil from an ID-Edge too.

Mark

Mark,
I believe you may have gotten that backwards. I'm pretty sure the ID-Edge coils work fine on a C$ without modification. It's the C$ coils that need the ground lifted to work on the ID Edge.
(Or, you can get the SunRay pinpointer, and it has a switch that lets you use either coil with either machine.)


mike

 

[MarkCZ]

... with a little modification at the coil connector you can use a coil from an ID-Edge too.

Mark

Mark,
I believe you may have gotten that backwards. I'm pretty sure the ID-Edge coils work fine on a C$ without modification. It's the C$ coils that need the ground lifted to work on the ID Edge.
(Or, you can get the SunRay pinpointer, and it has a switch that lets you use either coil with either machine.)


mike

There is a small ground jumper connected from one pin to the ground of the strain relief arm on the connector of the CS (used) the ID-Edge doesn't have the jumper (not used).
To match the wiring correctly for switching the coils you would need to.

Remove the ground jumper to use the CS coils on the ID-Edge,

Add the jumper to the ID-Edge coils to use them on the CS.

I've heard of some users switching the coils around to one model without doing anything to the jumper with some success, but the correct circuit is the CS uses the jumper, the Edge does not!

What your looking at in the pictures below is the coil connector that I had to replace due to poor workmanship at Sun-Ray! the connector was removed (cable cut) from a CS-5 coil (Coin$rtike coil) a couple of things to note!
(1) the strain relief tabs were not crimped at ALL around the cable!
(2) the ground jumper is soldered pretty good to the strain relief arm, but it was no more than laying on the solder on the connecting pin (sometimes it touched and sometimes it didn't) if this connection isn't right the CS will power up for a couple of seconds, then power back off. That CS-5 coil giave me fits before I found out what was going on.

The CS-5 coils came with a adapter cable so that the coil could be used on the ID-Edge, all they did with the adapter was to omit the ground jumper at the connector.

These pictures do show the correct location for the jumper, for homemade jumpers I used the tiny solid copper wire used in home installed phone wires, its perfect!


Mark

 

[cookie58]

Thanks Mark. Very helpful information........D.

 

[trojdor]

I've heard of some users switching the coils around to one model without doing anything to the jumper with some success, but the correct circuit is the CS uses the jumper, the Edge does not!

Mark

Mark,
I see what you're saying...

I'm actually one of 'those' guys.
I've got 2 C$ and one ID Edge, and I've got all the coils setup to Edge specs so that they can be used on any of the machines.

After much bench and field testing with and without the jumpers, I can see no depth, emi, or stability difference using Edge coils on the C$.
(I did, however, end up with several coils made from the infamous bad batch of cable...they shredded the insulation like confetti. Thus the impetus to 'mix-n-match' coils.)


mike

 

[MarkCZ]

Yea, the CS has a coil circuit test that it performs at bootup and It's my understanding that the Edge doesn't perform that test. (The manual also states the coil circuit test)

At one point I also had 2 CS and the Bill Ladd Proto type ID-Edge.
After losing my job (they shut down the warehouse) money got tight (still is) so I cut back on my detectors and one by one the CS's went, then the Edge made its way back to Bill, so now I'm pretty lean on detectors.


Mark

 

[trojdor]

After losing my job (they shut down the warehouse) money got tight (still is) so I cut back on my detectors and one by one the CS's went, then the Edge made its way back to Bill, so now I'm pretty lean on detectors.

Mark

Mark,
Sorry to hear about the job loss...similar thing happened to me.

(I'm going through my detectors now, trying to decide which ones I can live without.)

I may have inadvertently offended someone recently when they mentioned how much better the economy has gotten...and I laughed out loud at them.

Good luck, and HH!
mike

 

[cookie58]

I didn't thank you before Trojdor for your input. So, now, thanks to you also. I'm interested in the C$. I'm supposed to have one coming this week. There doesn't seem to be much written negative about this MD but it seems the coils are rare and hard to find. I presently own a Minelab XS(which is not made anymore), a Tesoro Tejon, and a TDI S/L. There are aftermarket coils available for each of those machines(even the out of production Minelab). Thanks....

 

[trojdor]

cookie58,

You're most welcome.
Looks like you've already got excellent taste in detectors.

All four have completely different 'personalities', and each have excellent strengths.

Good luck with your C$. Take your time to learn it's quirks. Some folk lose patience early...before they've truly figured it out.
However, since you've got a TDI, I suspect your patience level is just fine.

And search this forum for old C$ tips and advice...there's lots of good info.


mike

 

[MarkCZ]

"cookie58" a couple of the best tricks for starting out with the C$ is,

Don't use the preset coin program! unlike most presets that are mild beginner settings the C$ is to HOT!!

Don't overthink it! its really not that complicated.

Start out with settings like this,
Sensitivity = 75
Threshold = -15 to -20
Discrimination =99 (the discrimination @ 99 is still Iron only, you'll notice that the notch system starts out @ foil)

With my first C$ it didn't seem to matter if I ground balanced it in All-Metal or Discrimination mode, the second to get it right I had to do it in the All-Metal mode and then switch to Discrimination mode.

You don't have to swing it like your mowing grass, but the C$ does like a brisk sweep speed.

And a little warning!! the C$ really has to much volume for about any headphones with the volume control set to max!! it will blow your hears off.

I never found the memory banks much help seeing how the C$ keeps its last used settings except for ground balance.

Oh, the touch pad isn't an instant response! its a push and hold for a second or so.

Also, never use pliers to tighten the coil connector, but do make sure that its good and finger tight!! its also good from time to time to clean the connector pins and the threads on the connector because the C$ can be sensitive to poor connections, it also uses the connection at the screw ring for a ground, so if its not right when the C$ is turned on and it does the bootup coil circuit test the detector will just power back off.

HH

Mark

 

[cookie58]

Thanks to you both. I may need for youall to answer a question from time to time. Thanks very much....D.