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How deep how old ?

pilot

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I know the deeper the target the older the coin or artifact usually is. Up here in Minnesota with the winters and the ground freezing and thawing every year I am starting to wonder how deep the old stuff is. My two oldest finds have been a 1939 Mercury dime and a 1934 wheat penny. Both were found right next to the sidewalk which I think prevented them from sinking deeper and only a couple inches down, but I have been finding much newer coins up to 5 or 6 inches down digging with a screw driver. What have you guys been finding and how far down. I am getting pretty good with the 705 (3 week newbie with over 500 newer coins...mostly pennies) but am still a little nervous about bringing a shovel to dig the deeper targets. What has been your experience with coin depths vs age. Thanks
 
Hi Pilot,
Congrats. on the New 705. I have also found lots of coins in the same areas that i hunted with my old detector.
You bring up some good points regarding depth and older coins. I almost exclusively hunt for older coins now and often pass up obvious memorial TID's . I have found that the older, deeper coins give off a much softer, less distinct signal which is easy to pass up, so now I hunt much more slowly and deliberately. When I get a softer signal, I swing from all directions to see if i can "lock on" and if it looks good, I dig.
HH
Chuckciao
 
Living in Michigan, I know that the frost heaving the ground always keeps things moving around. I've dug 10yr old zincolns @ 6-8" right next to where I pulled a 1928 Wheat @ 4".

Frost adds an element to ground fishing that's interesting, in that it is virtually impossible to hunt out an area. The ground is constantly moving under the sod. As some targets go down, others get pushed up.
 
Last year in Pa. I dug a test garden with carefully measured and placed coins. Last year we had a very cold winter. Earlier this summer was testing in my test garden and the readings were off on some targets. Dug them to check and found a few of the coins were raised approx. 2 inches from what I expect was frost upheaval.
 
I think Old Longhair hit the nail on the head. I have had some similar finds hear in Eastern Washington. While we will not get the same severe cold you do or the snow load (most years), We do get a LOT of thaw and freeze cycles every year, some years the ground freezes deep then thaws and repeat. I have found that in SOME yards the coins seem to "settle" at a certain level(ish). Where almost all coins were within about an inch or so if they were older than 30 to 40 years with a few that found their way under the rocks and are deeper. This tells me that a couple of things are happening: In some yards there is a rock layer that acts as a backstop to keep coins from going to extreme depths and that some coins are affected by by ground movement and slip into or past this level. It does seem to be that the deeper coins are usually the older but not always. The level of traffic on a patch of ground also seems to affect the depth.

I have found an interesting thing in the old yard that produced the 1919 SLQ. The deeper targets are always a rusted nail (so far). I have found a few sorta deep coins but for the most part I am finding that 4 to 5" is near the max and deeper is a bent and rusty nail. Now if I am hitting nails deeper then there should be coins there also, RIGHT. Maybe. I am thinking that the thin nail must have less resistance and slip through the soil and rocks easier, and not get pushed up like a flat coin. ????

Seems to be a lot of variables. I am sure we will hear from others with more time on task.

I have only been at this a couple years so far and these are just some observations. If you do a search there have been several discussions regarding this topic here in Findmall in various forums. The general consensus seems to be that this seems to depend on the neighborhood and geography you are in and that what I am finding to be true may not be the same as what you find in your area.

HH
Jeff
 
I did a little more looking and found this http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=5694
 
pilot said:
What has been your experience with coin depths vs age.

All of my oldest finds have been some of my deepest targets. 1834 half dime at 6-7". 1911 Barber at 6-7". A couple of indians about 6". Most of my 30's and 40's silver has been 3-4".

I will say that I have been detecting with some people that have found 1800's coins at 3-4".

I think anything is possible. I have heard that the freezing and thawing of the ground can cause stuff to move around. A few months back we had someone dig an indian about an inch under ground.
 
I have been digging coins from 1500-1600Th at sometimes less then 4 inch??!!....and then small silver at 10" or more,new ones early 1800Th.
The older digs have been big copper coins all found in Norway. Also fun that nails come up ,Cu's they have been laying deeeep...
 
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