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Hunting by tones alone

Waterdog

Well-known member
I seen this video on YouTube the other day and this guy was out hunting by Tones only on a XP deus. He had no remote visible, but you could hear it. Has anyone here ever set up a program and hunted by tones only and done any good ?
 

HuntinDog

Well-known member
The XP Deus is a tone machine.
I primarily hunt with tones, only checking for numbers on questionable targets.
The key is to setup your tone breaks and stick with them.
Once you have trained your brain to the tones you can hear the nuances in the tones and pick those iffy targets out.
 

Lodge Scent

Active member
I agree with HuntingDog. Tone hunting for me....and listen to what my breaks are telling me. The edges of the breaks can tell you lot. If I look at the screen it usually just at the Mineralization bar. My soil is very mild. The Mineralization bar will light up when I put the coil over that nice sounding odd-shaped iron. The other reason I might peak at the screen is to make sure that I am in the program I want to be in! I'll sometimes switch to an adjacent program for a quick check on a target and forget to switch back.
 

bigtim1973

Active member
am starting to do the same. if you look at the guys who are really into the deus they use pitch and the xy screen. I have a deus but I am also a majority of a coin hunter. SO I do look at the screen in a 3 tone configuration. However, I have just made a relic program for out in the fields. And will use it as a lite set up on the full tone option. So when the weather breaks I will be trying this out.
 

Lodge Scent

Active member
Personally, I haven't found an advantage to using Pitch over Multi Tones. Believe me, I have tried. I have done a lot of testing in the field. Any target that I have squeaked out of the iron with Pitch, I could also hit with Multi Tones....and vice versa. So for me, it just comes down personal preference. And I prefer Multi Tones. For many users, Pitch will alert them to a target better than the other tone formats, and that is great. Use what set up works best for you. Same with the screen. I used XY for a few years...and would still be using it if it had the Mineralization bar.
 

bigtim1973

Active member
Full tone ve pitch are different though

Pitch takes and responds to a targets orientation of shallow or deep. Louder is closer to the surface



I like the full tones and am trying to get used to it more. The die hard lite users use pitch and do quite well training their ear.


I do think that a regular tone setting does allow for a better idea of a targets depth more.


But going to stick to full tones for relic hunting for a while
 

relicmeister

Well-known member
I am finally going to visit a friend who bought a 1720 house in a historical area of CT. I will be bringing the Orx and Deus Lite w/ 4 coils shared. My friend wants to detect a little and will use one of mine while I will be going whole hog with my full arsenal in the yard ( where rev war troops camped) in the plowed fields and in the woods all part of the property. I’m going for max number of targets and will probably favor the Orx and part of the time with Deus lite. I’ll use program 3 ( maybe switch to deep or hot in the field ) and though I’ve been using 5-tone I think I’ll use full tones instead. I will likely use hi frequency coils in the yard and the 11” X35 in woods and either 11” or 9” hf in the fields depending on field conditions.
my expectations are high for this location even if former owners have detected or allowed some due to the rich history of the area and the 6 acres the property consists of.
I have only tried pitch a couple of times and probably won’t use it at this site because I’m not experienced enough with it. I’ll practice using it on my regular sites.
 

LTimedigger

Active member
As long as your breaks are set right I would not think of using anything but them. I tried for awhile running w/o the remote mounted because if you can see the number before you dig it might cause you to skip a good tone that doesnt have a good number when the number might have been compromised. I started to use it again because like Lodge i use it to verify a good tone by changing programs then forget to change back but i try to dig first and ignore the numbers.
 

relicmeister

Well-known member
In the end whether by tones or with target ID I’m making my dig / no dig decisions by tone, tone uniformity from different directions of swing, whether signal is sharp, dull or clipped, how loud it is and how fast the signal drops off as coil is raised, etc and finally by expectations from previous similar target characteristics- and to determine all this very quickly.
Well that’s how it works for me.
 

u2robert

Well-known member
Tone hunting has been around since the 90's most of us learned to hunt with tones
And still do. Target ID is just one more tool in the tool box but TID can easily be fooled as tones can
 

Lodge Scent

Active member
Tones can be fooled but as RelicMeister explains, TID numbers can be rather static and offer limited information as compared to the more dynamic properties of Tones. But a good TID hunter will always find more than a bad Tones hunter. ;)
 

5900_XL-1

Well-known member
Tones can be fooled but as RelicMeister explains, TID numbers can be rather static and offer limited information as compared to the more dynamic properties of Tones. But a good TID hunter will always find more than a bad Tones hunter. ;)
Yes as good TID number will, but to the ears of a tone only hunter, with the strength to dig a ton of holes, more good treasure can be had. It does take lots of work.
 

MikeLab

Active member
CDepends on where you are hunting. In heavy aluminum trash the FULL TONES and XY screen I can hear a wavering sound and see it on the XY screen. It's easier to hear the wavering when I look at the XY screen.

This video he uses FULL TONES. You won't get the same elongated sounds if you don't use Full Tones like when he pulls the coil off the target. Of course you can use two programs to double check.

 
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Picketwire

Well-known member
Full tones on a Deus almost talk to you. I have mine set up with Hot at 10khz and a fast program with 4 tones, first break at 9.4, second where a nickel mostly 2nd tones but breaks to 3 tone less, and third break that does the same thing to zinc pennies. Nickels mostly lower ton and tabs mostly higher tone. This program works well but full tones gives me better information. If you listen enough, depth and size can be determined as well as when in pitch for me anyway. Slowing sweep speed gives smooth close to one tone signals on coins and "kak" or staccato tone signals with more variance in tones on aluminum and steel bottle caps. You can also tell bottle caps by the iron tone as you pull back the coil. I also have found lots of treasure (for me anyway) with my Tejon and Outlaw and never felt overly handicapped by not having numbers. As far as numbers, a machine with 100 or more Vid numbers are going to jump around more than one with 40. I started with a fisher f2 and could make some bottle caps give consistent quarter numbers. With newer more advanced detectors I can get certain pull tabs that VIDs hold one number better than nickels and at nickel numbers. I have had nickels and tabs give quarter VIDs at depth with nothing else in the hole.
 

HuntinDog

Well-known member
If I remember right Full Tones have 99 tones or maybe that's just VID numbers...
 
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