I am curious, will a multi-frequency coil work with the current Deus?

[Jeff in Pa]

Anyone care to speculate on this thought? I want to order a new Deus but obviously would want it to work with a new coil technology.

Thoughts? Ideas?

Thanks

 

[Jeff in Pa]

The first thing I think of is could this be why we seen the drop in price?

I don't know if XP has a history of doing that but know of some other companies who suddenly offer "free coils" or other things to try and move the current product before a new release.

 

[Nuke em]

Later this year , I don't have details but I have been told there is a new coil coming and the source said its going to be multi frequency . Don't know which frequencies , whether new or all 4 that the Deus has already but anyway it will be tested in the next few months and released later probably late Summer ?
That's what I have been told so we will have to wait and see.

It will be for the current Deus .
Also their is a new upgrade to V4 planned and that may be part of the new coil ? but that we will have to wait and see.

Buy the Deus but in my opinion is that if you can get it with the 11 in coil and not the 9in coil then all the better . Also WS4 backphones are better than the WS5 , better sound quality I think unless in very windy conditions , then again if you wear a woolly hat over the top then it will help.

 

[Jeff in Pa]

Thank you!

I have owned the Deus before, both coils and the WS4's along with the adapter and tried an array of other headphones. I agree the WS4's are the ticket.

Its nice to know that a new coil of whatever will work with the current Deus!

Thanks!

 

[North Georgia Relics]

The price dropped because the value of the dollar went up against foreign currency. To my knowledge, they were the only company to decrease their price becasue of this. There is no reason for XP to try and get rid of currect models of detectors since all models are upgradeable over the internet.

 

[sprchng]

The price dropped because the value of the dollar went up against foreign currency. To my knowledge, they were the only company to decrease their price becasue of this. There is no reason for XP to try and get rid of currect models of detectors since all models are upgradeable over the internet.

I agree , Don , and I find it curious how many want to ignore the impact of international currency fluctuations on pricing and substitute some nefarious motive in it's place.
As far as a multi frequency coil goes , I would hope it is just an update feature and not something that would require the purchase of another $500 or $600 coil to avail yourself of the technology. If one had to purchase a new coil it would fly in the face of all of XP's advertising as to the update value of their detector. If a coil with different hardware is required , I would hope they would offer a very inexpensive exchange program for current owners

 

[Jeff in Pa]

I sure hope both of you are right but I would be willing to bet that in order to have multi frequency you will need another coil, probably a very expensive one.

 

[sprchng]

I hope we're correct as well Jeff but my gut feeling is that a hardware upgrade will also be required and hopefully XP gives current owners some cushion to stay with their brand. Personally , I don't see how the size of the screen on the remote allows use of the multifrequency aspects if it is going to be anything that gives the user more information as to target ID. It's hard to imagine software alone can make the types of changes I would think are required to go to a multifrequency unit.

 

[Nuke em]

It will be a new coil , I have been told this . A multi freq coil has different windings and unfortunately will cost a wee bit , but oh well another hole in my pocket !
At least they are making the machine better than it was before , better , faster , stronger .

 

[sprchng]

It will be a new coil , I have been told this . A multi freq coil has different windings and unfortunately will cost a wee bit , but oh well another hole in my pocket !
At least they are making the machine better than it was before , better , faster , stronger .

If that is the case it will behoove XP to make accommodations for current users to upgrade inexpensively or the market will be flooded with single frequency Deus' at rock bottom prices and few of the sellers will be purchasing their new units unless they offer absolutely ground opening opportunities and I don't mean like the new Nokta and Makro detectors which have simply added a slight twist to existing capabilities. The Deus is a fun detector to run but nothing so outstanding that I will continue to patronize a company which makes it detectors obsolete in a few years when it's timelessness is one of their selling points.

 

[Nuke em]

You are not understanding what I am saying , this coil works with your Deus and you can keep the coil or coils you have aswell . Its extra. There is a new version V4 coming which will mean you update then the new coil will work as well as the older coils with your Deus . Just because the 11in coil came out does not mean everyone sells their 9in coils so why sell your older coils when another coil albeit a multi freq comes out? single freq coils have their uses too, multi freq is not always the best . I cant wait for the new coil , but I am keeping what else I have

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

How can the deus with multy freq help us? Now we may have to get a new coil and what size would that be I would hope at least a 9" but I would like a smaller coil also...I know the CZ were using two freq and they were deep but we can also program the deus so maybe it would really give us more depth and better ID? And the update what would they add to that? I know the use of multy freq would be one and maybe with the freq of 4 we could change the reactivity...but what else do you think they may add..with the racer coming out I think with three coils one for sure is small and deep, do you thing the French have noticed there is a new kid in town and it will want to give the deus a face lift??

 

[Nuke em]

A multi freq coil would help us massively with mineralisation and concentrating on more than one freq will find more sometimes. Another thing I think is that XP have been trying to get their machine to work better on wet salt which most or all VLF machines wont do well , having a few freqs working at the same time will sort that or make it better .
As for the size of coil , I would hope for at least 11 x 10 in , I have also heard that an elliptical is coming but size is ? maybe its the multi freq ?

The Racer is a low priced machine and not in the same level , whether deep or not its not on my radar .
As for face lifts , the Deus gets updates and has had 4 since coming out and 2 extra coils so 1 more coil or more and another update , where's the problem ? improvements are welcome and I wish other companies would think more about them too !

PS , don't know what Low-Boy means but does LCPM mean Landing Craft Personnel Medium ?

 

[Jeff in Pa]

I agree nuke-um. XP has been giving us MUCH more with the Deus. They have continued to update their software and these updates have had significant valued improvements to the Deus. When you look at one of the other manufacturers Flagship detector for our needs you can't help but know without a dout, it could be so much better with software updates.

Kudos to XP!!

 

[Nuke em]

I don't think software updates are the reason for the facility on the CTX , its more than likely that its for Minelab or other people to share their programs with others on a site. That seems to be all there is in terms of updates or were.
As the menu is so tricky to work round unlike the ET and with the lack of a paperback manual it would make sense to have program updates done that way. Big reason why I did not like the CTX and went back to the ET was the tricky menu .

If the Deus with the new coil does prove a major success and there is no guaranty of that , it would be a real knock for Minelab which many people have been asking for years for a light weight FBS machine.

The only things I am not as keen on with the Deus are the single set of numbers and the tones , I like the fluty tones of the ET .

 

[DrJoeprime]

You do realize that each Deus coil has the detector in there too? That accounts for the "coil" costing more than you expect from other types of detectors.

(Sorry..I just had to contribute my nickels worth)

Joe

 

[Jeff in Pa]

Funny how you knew I was speaking of the CTX. So many owners have said the CTX could be so much more if they would tweak their software. Many many have asked for certain things, for instance more bins but the list goes on and on. I believe Minlab is not so interested in what people ask for but more so they are concerned about sales. XP is proving they care about the customer.

 

[Nuke em]

Funny how you knew I was speaking of the CTX. So many owners have said the CTX could be so much more if they would tweak their software. Many many have asked for certain things, for instance more bins but the list goes on and on. I believe Minlab is not so interested in what people ask for but more so they are concerned about sales. XP is proving they care about the customer.

Minelab is only the tail of the Dog now and Codan call the shots , or bark's

I am used to seeing the CTX being talked about and I have had it and know all the mistakes they made making it , pity though it does look good for a fatty

 

[Jeff in Pa]

Good one's

And yet the CTX is very formidable detector.

I am just glad that we have the freedom of choice.

 

[Nuke em]

Good one's

And yet the CTX is very formidable detector.

I am just glad that we have the freedom of choice.

Too heavy without a bungee , you need Physiotherapy after using one.