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I am wondering what kind of depth are you guys

T

Tinfoil

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Getting with the Xterra 5o and 70 at the wet salt sand beaches with the 5X10 18.75 DD coil. Anybody been shallow salt water wadding with the coil. Juat thought I would ask. :shrug: How about the other coils like the 9" 7.5 and the 9" 18.75. I figuar the 5x10 Dd should be better at the wet salt sand then the concentric. It is getting boring around here. :sleepy: How about some posts. Later Ya'll Jerry aka Tinfoil
 
As for the beach hunting...I cant help you on that one. I havent taken my detector to the beach yet...Maybe one of these days...

As for the forum being boring lately...
I know that my earlier post wasnt the most exciting, but I did post anyway and it didnt ellicit much response, so I figured that I was playing to a tougher crowd than on the Tesoro forum. I just thought "why post"...You guys have seen a million silver rings, a ton of wheat pennies, and have probably answered every conceivable X-50 question. I am still a little unclear on that whole which way is negative and positive on the ground balance issue, if you want to cover that for me.

Thanks

J.
 
:bouncy:many years I just read them. As I was always working and hunting every spare minute I had and never really posted. Now That I retired I now hunt and Post some. Never was very good at posting anyway. The reading and hunting I got down pat though and I try to learn something every time I go out about the detector I am using. I don't care what kind of detector I am using I always put a minimum of 200 hours on one before I set it down and play with another one. I am not a real Tech sort of guy, but what is important to me is how and what I have to do to get the best performance out of my machines. It is all the little tricks and peculiarities that you learn about the machine you need to know to make it perform to it's best abilities. A machine might hunt in one place great,in another crappy. The thing you have to learn is how to make it hunt in both places the best that it will hunt. Then practice,practice,practice,and when you think you got it practice some more. I have figured out how to G/B my X70 like my fishers and Shadow X5. Go to page 42 middle of the page and read the area that has the little pick in manual G/B. It says to aim for min volume variation. Now to get the ball park balance push the Auto button and let it auto G/B. That gets you close to minimun G/B of the machine. Now push the - till you get a rise in the audio on the way down, not much just a slight increase in audio. A example is my G/B is 36 in one spot then I lower the number down to 32 by pushing the - button and that makes the audio rise just enough to make it more sen. to gold and quieten the machine down a little when you are in the trash and iron. Terry Humphries taught me that little trick on my Fishers so many years ago that I don't like to think about it cause it makes me think of how long ago it was and how old I have gotten to be. :bouncy: and how :crazy: it has made me trying to keep up with all the machines I have bought and tested. Now is that a positive G/B or a Negative G/B. Hell I don't know and don't care but I do know it helps my machine hunt better in the iron,trash and makes it just a little more sensitive to the gold as I am really a water and beach hunter. For now I suggest you just auto G/B your machine and put 200 hours on it and then start playing around some. Anyway this is a very long post and I am sorry if it got confusing. I never had the forum for so many years of metal detecting and never had people to answer any of my questions. I had to teach myself. You are very lucky to have so many guys on this and other forums that are way smarter them I am to teach you and answer your questions. Later J and get out there and hunt HH Jerry aka Tinfoil.
 
for the info and advice. I noted in the owners manual, that it was better to have the tone slightly lower and figured that it meant the lower tone was a positive GB, but wasnt sure. They kind of made the book ambiguous in that way. And as for hunting....I am leaving on vacation in a couple of days and hope to be able to hit a ghost town or two on our way through Nevada and Utah. So I hope to post something good on my return.

J.
 
You stated:

"A example is my G/B is 36 in one spot then I lower the number down to 32 by pushing the - button and that makes the audio rise just enough to make it more sen. to gold and quieten the machine down a little when you are in the trash and iron. .... Now is that a positive G/B or a Negative G/B. Hell I don't know and don't care but I do know it helps my machine hunt better in the iron trash and makes it just a little more sensitive to the gold as I am really a water and beach hunter."... Yes, making a shift like that, from any larger # to a lower number (ie: 36 to 32) is making a positive adjustment to the GB.

However, your ground is much less mineralized than mine and you might get away with that much GB shift. Not so here, and I encourage a "right on" GB in most applications. I have found that the X-Terra 50 and 70, like many other makes and models (not all) that provide a manual GB adjustment can have some operational issues if the GB is set either too positive or too negative.

I hunt very trashy sites most of the time, and when I have hunted this past week, where a GB from 14 to 21 might be required to be on-the-mark, shifting too much either way gave me some problems.

What I do know is that Minelab needs to shake a leg and get us a smaller-than-stock sized coil!!

Happy Hunting to you.

Monte
 
Man you got some bad ground. Some places here G/B at 48 to 56 so I guess I am lucky. I only use one target in my garden and that is a dime on edge at 8"s. You would be surprised at the Name brand machines that have a hard time hitting it. I just laugh when people hype those machines up. :rofl: . I don't say much other then to the guys that I really know. I know what works in this area and at the beaches I hunt. I am with you on the smaller coil. The 5x10 is real good but I need a smaller one then that. Oh before I forget maybe you would like to give a input to the guy a few posts up that is hunting in the iron and trash. I always enjoy reading posts that help you improve your hunting. :super: . I always enjoy your posts. :bouncy: . That type of G/B in my area and some in Texas really help my hunting. You just have to see what the ground is balancing out at. Like you said bad or mineralized ground you need to go to min or as close to 0 and your machine can get. It just depends. Thanks for your reply to my post. Now get out there and go :detecting: Later bud Jerry aka Tinfoil.
 
Going that way about mid July. Need to check out a couple of detectors in the sand before moving to the south side. The old stuff should be on the south side if you didn't get all of it. John R
 
Bad it is just terrible. :rage: :rant: All the work a few of us done to clean out the waters edge and out wadding is just shot. Your machine will sound like a machine gun it is so bad. I wish you luck cause you are going to need it. It is so depressing to see all that hard work shot to hell and we got to do it all over again. When you go over to Galveston you can hunt for a long way along the seawall. East beach was always trashy, Stewart Beach is good, Down by the Best western the beach above and below it is good. Alot of hunters over there. when you go don't wast time digging coins just hunt the gold signals and save yourself some time. I never dig coins when I am on the beach unless I am in a area that Spanish coins have come out of. Then of course you got to dig it all. When you come Thur I will probably be in Fl. seeing the kids. Let me know when you come Thur though. :bouncy: If I am here we will go :detecting: some. Later Bud Jerry aka Tinfoil
 
Thanks for the info. I got to stop in LC anyway to visit relatives for a couple of days. I'll be going to Galveston that. Do you ever look around Crystal Beach? HH John R
 
Trashed also. You will have to do alot of target sizing if you go over there. Beer can and coke can city and large Pisces of foil. Galveston Island is not as trashed as C/B is. Maybe they have cleaned it up some. It has been a while since I have hunted there. Good luck and I would concentrate more on Galveston and next time I go over there I am going to hunt the dry sand for the small gold and diamond stud earing's. Never saw many guys hunting the small stuff as they don't have the patience to hunt it. There are more small targets that are valuable over there then the big stuff because it is alot of work to hunt the small stuff. I am looking forward to using the X70 and 5x10DD over there and maybe I can get some more of those diamond stud Erin's like the last time I was there. OK so now you know where to go and what to do. Hope you get some good ones. Those Diamond studs make into some nice gold rings. :clapping: but will make you :crazy: looking for them :bouncy: :biggrin: . Jerry aka Tinfoil
 
but haven't taken it in the shallows yet. It works very good for me across dry, dry/wet and wet sand and if you don't have the sensitivity cranked up too high, will transition across all three without retuning or too much noise. For us anyway, the hardest area to hunt is the transitional area where the top sand is dry and wet sand just below. That stuff can be real tricky for most detectors, but the X-terra handles it very well. Depth...well it isn't a FBS or BBS but it's darn respectible and you have accurate target ID so you spend less time digging foil and bottle caps. I have retrieved several nickels at 8-9" range and have found a few stud earrings and other very small low conductivity targets. And if you don't mind switching modes back and forth, the prospecting mode in the dry sand is a depth monster - incredibly sensitive. When I have time, I switch back and forth and dig everything that doesn't clearly break up or null on pattern.
 
Thanks. As a kid I worked across the lake from the present LC beach. If I dig up anything from there, I'll tell you about a spot or two.
 
I'm thinking I found some small brass grommets and other odds and ends 4 or 5 inches, but I heard them well indicating I could have found some of this stuff even deeper. But I haven't had it down there in the wet sand for a while. I'm going to take it out this weekend and try it out for several hours and I'll let you know how I do.
 
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