I am a member of church council when I attend.I guess I must be doing something wrong,because my whole church family know what I am going through; with my back pain,and no insurance to cover it.NOT ONCE have any of them even acknowledged I have a problem,or offered the church's benevolence fund to help me buy pain pills,or anything else,I must do without.............And;it bothers me.And NO,I WILL NOT ask for the help,please don't suggest it................Steve.
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I guess Im doing something wgong..............
- Thread starter warthog
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SeniorSeeker
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Jesus said we shouldn't judge others because we will be judge by the same level of judgement. Forgive me Lord but it sounds a bit like the man may belong to the wrong church? What happened to "...love your neighbor as yourself"?
Sigh.......I've been down a similar road with my wife's multiple sclerosis and churches. Too many are so "westernized" that they don't know what to do with sickness, pain, suffering and financial distress. I know you don't want to hear it but make some noise. Show them in scripture where the church is called to care for the sick and needy. They can either wake up or you need to find a better church. Just my 2 cents worth.
When my wife was at her lowest no one even called or visited. When one lady asked what they could do I asked her to visit and talk with her. A look of horror crossed her face. Needless to say none came. When God delivered her none rejoiced with us. And people wonder why we can't wait to return to our "home" overseas. There things are a bit different.
God sees you right where you are and cares deeply. He will sustain you and he might just be trying to open eyes of others. Don't be afraid to let Him use this in their lives. Open up and tell them what you think.
When my wife was at her lowest no one even called or visited. When one lady asked what they could do I asked her to visit and talk with her. A look of horror crossed her face. Needless to say none came. When God delivered her none rejoiced with us. And people wonder why we can't wait to return to our "home" overseas. There things are a bit different.
God sees you right where you are and cares deeply. He will sustain you and he might just be trying to open eyes of others. Don't be afraid to let Him use this in their lives. Open up and tell them what you think.
Warthog your pride is a sin and if you don't humble your self and ask for help, how will any body know if you need help. .Get your Bible and look up pride and then look humble. No body like to ask for help but some tiomes we just may have to. My wife and I been there don't be a shame to ask. I don't know what kind of church you go to but most will help. JimCVA
Ma Betty in MO
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Proverbs 16, 18 : Pride goeth before destruction,and an haughty spirit before a fall. 19...Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud. 20....He that handleth a matter wisely shall find good: andwhoso trusteth in the LORD, happy is he.
Hi wgsteve.....life isn't fair and that is for sure, because I know from childhood on to where I am of age 76...but to be able to get help for your health and financial trials, you need to pray in humbleness and earnestly to God our Father in heaven in Jesus' name and ask Him for help and He will by His Holy Spirit move upon those who can and are willing to help you...whether in be your church or someone or others! You need absolute faith and not doubt that He will help you and meet your needs whatever they may be if they are for your good and for His purpose! Ask for His guidance and listen to His Spirit speaking within you to know what you should do and if it is to speak to the pastor and leaders of the church concerning your situation then humble yourself and do it! God knows our hearts and exactly what we each must do to help ourselves and then by standing by faith He does what is needed done, but we always should go to God first to guide us in everything and then, when we've done all we can do then we are to LET GO and LET GOD take control!
Matthew 7,7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8...For every one that asketh (in faith) receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened....Please read the other verses and you will see how God is good to us just like we are good to our children! Children ask their parents and most of the time they receive as long as it is good for them and doesn't spoil them...for when we are given too much we don't appreciate as much wht we have been given and in the case of asking our Heavenly Father, He knows what we need before we ask but we wants us to ask and then He wants to hear thank yous just like we thank others for their gifts given us! Sooooo pray and then do what God leads you to do in Jesus' name and then when the help comes give God Prasie and Jesus thanks and also the Holy Spirit, for He is the one Who teaches us all truth and is our Helper! Amen! Prayers for your church to understand and help you financially but if they do not then seek another church that has God's Holy Spirit working in it! I have known people who didn't get any help from others because of their Pride and people didn't want to hurt their Pride!
Ma Betty
Hi wgsteve.....life isn't fair and that is for sure, because I know from childhood on to where I am of age 76...but to be able to get help for your health and financial trials, you need to pray in humbleness and earnestly to God our Father in heaven in Jesus' name and ask Him for help and He will by His Holy Spirit move upon those who can and are willing to help you...whether in be your church or someone or others! You need absolute faith and not doubt that He will help you and meet your needs whatever they may be if they are for your good and for His purpose! Ask for His guidance and listen to His Spirit speaking within you to know what you should do and if it is to speak to the pastor and leaders of the church concerning your situation then humble yourself and do it! God knows our hearts and exactly what we each must do to help ourselves and then by standing by faith He does what is needed done, but we always should go to God first to guide us in everything and then, when we've done all we can do then we are to LET GO and LET GOD take control!
Matthew 7,7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8...For every one that asketh (in faith) receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened....Please read the other verses and you will see how God is good to us just like we are good to our children! Children ask their parents and most of the time they receive as long as it is good for them and doesn't spoil them...for when we are given too much we don't appreciate as much wht we have been given and in the case of asking our Heavenly Father, He knows what we need before we ask but we wants us to ask and then He wants to hear thank yous just like we thank others for their gifts given us! Sooooo pray and then do what God leads you to do in Jesus' name and then when the help comes give God Prasie and Jesus thanks and also the Holy Spirit, for He is the one Who teaches us all truth and is our Helper! Amen! Prayers for your church to understand and help you financially but if they do not then seek another church that has God's Holy Spirit working in it! I have known people who didn't get any help from others because of their Pride and people didn't want to hurt their Pride!
Ma BettyAre you folks so sure it's pride? He's stated they know what's going on. Isn't scripture pretty plain that we are to visit and help the sick and needy? Where does it say that it is only if they come asking? Not sure I can agree with y'all on this. I've been in his shoes and asked, begged for help, fellowship, company and watched church family fidget, get uncomfortable and do anything except what scripture says to do. Bear one anothers burdens? Brother if I was near you'd be seeing me. I may be broke but I'd be there. I'll be praying for you none the less.
Ma Betty in MO
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just waiting on them to help him when they already may know his situation! I didn't say it was Pride but if it is...I gave him some scriptures on Pridefulness and on how to ask and seek God, first, Who will guide him in what he needs to do! I pray he gets the finances and meds he needs and by saying something to his dr, he will most likely get some samples free and help from the pharmacy! I don't like to ask people either but don't mind praying and asking God and letting Him help me in all things! May God Bless! Amen! Ma Betty
Ma BettyIt is OK to ask for prayer to your church just like here. Maybe start with your pastor and if they know you need help maybe then they will offer.
Continued prayers from this end my friend.
Continued prayers from this end my friend.
scubadetector
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EVEN though she was an honest tithe payer all her life. I will never go back to that church again.
Ma Betty in MO
New member
she attended! One day she said she and her husband were having a problem paying a bill they needed paid! I said she should go to her church and ask for assistance since she gave them so much out of her paychecks! (I couldn't help for I was trying to keep mine paid) and they turned her down! I don't know if she still goes there or not, as I haven't seen her and husband for years, since I quit working in the place we both were working! I still think of her often, though! Sorry about this happening to you SD, but I guess they do get a lot of requests for help but this church was wealthy and they were making gobs of money which was being used personally for themselves and children! God will take care of them in time! Please don't consider all churches the same as your's was and wgsteve's might be! May God Bless you to find a good wife and a Spirit-filled church to attend together! Amen! Ma Betty
Ma Bettyscubadetector
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I was Latterday Saint or Mormon. They can help people all over the world BUT they can't help their own members who are dying. The LAST day I set foot in a LDS church was the Sunday after she passed away.
I am sorry for your problems warthog. Wish I knew an answer for you.
I am sorry for your problems warthog. Wish I knew an answer for you.
TURNMASTER
Active member
Warthog, Sorry Man
People are so busy in their own lives that they forget to care. I know this is a judgment and I will judged for it but you can read that last sentence as they are selfish. I see this problem all to often. Makes one wonder about the church as a whole. I mean the ENTIRE church here in the USA. We are so wrapped up in ourselves that we often forget to serve and support those who need it. When we do remember we structure our help in such a way that it requires little of us, no sacrifice, no work, no real effort.
Jeff
PS Don't forget, Our Strength comes from the Joy of The LORD.
People are so busy in their own lives that they forget to care. I know this is a judgment and I will judged for it but you can read that last sentence as they are selfish. I see this problem all to often. Makes one wonder about the church as a whole. I mean the ENTIRE church here in the USA. We are so wrapped up in ourselves that we often forget to serve and support those who need it. When we do remember we structure our help in such a way that it requires little of us, no sacrifice, no work, no real effort.
Jeff
PS Don't forget, Our Strength comes from the Joy of The LORD.