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I Think This Might Be The #1 Reason We Have So Much Competition Today

Sand Sifter

Active member
I've been giving more thought about the increased competition we face today, and I can't believe I either forgot or didn't think of this earlier. Countless posts have discussed this before, and I’ve jumped in as well mentioning things like the increasing prices of gold & silver, more detector manufacturers, more choices, hi-tech waterproof SMF detectors at more affordable prices, etc. If you’ve been detecting for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, all of those make sense, but we all still seem to be scratching our heads, trying to figure out where all this additional competition has come from.

But after giving it more thought, it finally dawned on me. IMHO, I think the #1 reason we have such increased competition these days is due to AWARENESS. Sure, of course the increasing value of gold & silver plays a big part, but they wouldn't be able to play such a big part in our hobby unless it was due to AWARENESS of our hobby. Here’s what I mean.

I started detecting as a kid 56 years ago (1969), so in my case, I have the benefit of being able to look back in time, as I started when the hobby itself was just getting started. So I, and other old timers, can look back in time to compare the hobby then to the hobby now. Back in the early days, if people out on a beach saw someone swinging a metal detector, they wouldn’t go up and ask him if he found anything, they’d ask him what was he doing. That’s because back then, metal detecting was an “under the radar” hobby. You’d only know about it if you happened to see or knew someone with a detector, read some treasure hunting stories, maybe saw an ad for a detector in a Tabloid, etc. It wasn’t a well known hobby back then like it is today.

Back then, as a kid, I read treasure hunting stories, books about pirates & shipwrecks, the Readers Digest story about Oak Island, all that type of stuff, and I dreamed of finding treasure. I’d scan through the classifieds of the Tabloid’s my mom bought at the grocery store, looking for metal detector ads. Back then, the detectors in the classifieds were “off brands” that would look like toys today. But to me, they were magical. So in 1969, my mom bought me a Heathkit detector after I saw it in one of their catalogs. The Heathkit was a BFO that we had to build ourselves. And when I say build, I don’t just mean assemble, we had to actually build the detector from scratch, so that meant soldering the components to the pcb, soldering and connecting wires, etc. So, it was just me, I’d take the detector to the playground in our community and hunt through the woods looking for “buried treasure”, lol.

Sometime in 1971, I talked my mom into upgrading me a White’s Coinmaster IV (TR). The local dealer that we bought it from just happened to be the President of a newly formed Metal Detecting Club, so we joined. I got to meet other treasure hunters, got to see other detectors and brands that I had only seen in catalogs, got to participate in club sponsored hunts as well as larger regional hunts, so I was now part of a community of TH’ers. I use this to illustrate that back then, ours was what I would call a “word of mouth” type hobby. You either had to know someone, stumble across the hobby, or be very interested in the hobby and took the time to seek out others. And researching took a LOT more time back then than today. I’d either have to write a letter or call White’s or Garrett to request a current catalog. I vividly remember looking through the Garrett catalog and literally drooling over those cool looking green detectors, lol.

So, what’s changed from them until now? We now have the internet, and getting any information we want only takes a few seconds. Today, I can come up with a list of every detector manufacturer, their websites, and have access to every model detector made, in just minutes. Back then, it would have probably taken me a year or more to find all this information, and I’d have to write letters or make phone calls to request more information. But today, anything I want to know, see, or learn about is just seconds away with a few taps of my keyboard. Everybody has internet access, and they can just jump on YouTube to watch videos of detectorists pulling cheddar from beach sands, or snorkeling/diving underwater. And when the average person, who may have never thought about metal detecting, see’s a video of gold rings being pulled from a beach with a detector, their subconscious “gold fever” takes over, and suddenly, they become very interested in getting a detector and finding some of that gold for themselves.

But back when the hobby was first getting started, the barrier to entry was a lot higher. You had to know that metal detectors existed, or knew someone who had one, or seen someone swinging one. It took a lot more effort and time back then to research the hobby and even to find out where you could buy a detector, lol. But today, because the internet has given every one instant access to information, and YouTube video’s allow people to see our hobby in action, along with some of the incredible finds that can be made, I think that’s the #1 reason why we have so much more competition today. The mass marketing of metal detecting via the internet has created more and more people interested in our hobby that probably wouldn’t have ever been interested if the internet didn’t exist.

Would love to hear thoughts/comments from other old timers here who can also look back in time. I’m sure they may have had similar experiences that I had.
 
Ditto everything you said.
Finding any information was both fun and frustrating. You either knew somebody or spent days at the library. Going thru books and magazines.
My first detector in 74 was a RadioShack.
Found pockets full of copper and silver coins. Had good finds most anywhere I went back then.
Sadly the kids today with their love of instant rewards just don't have the patience for detecting.
I have only one of my grandkids who shows any interest. And that's very limited.
I understand adults are falling on the hobby with the high gold and silver prices.
Only to be disappointed and selling some nice machines to us old farts at good prices.
 
I agree, things have changed in this hobby.
Two things to add to your reasons for more beach hunters out there these days, manufacturers push clubs to get kids involved in the hobby to sell more products, second, folks are finding it harder to get good dirt fishing spots. Laws have changed, fences go up around construction sites that are six feet high or more.
But remember in NJ there are around 126 miles of sand to hunt
 
I'm not seeing much of a change up here on the shores of lake Erie.
If anything I'm seeing less of the old farts.
The regulars.
There's a few Erie regulars on here.
Maybe their seeing something different.
I can't detect presently.
So I go up and park just watching.
 
I have only been in the hobby for about 20 years now, but growing I never saw anyone detecting.
The first time I saw someone detecting was in the early 90's on small beach at a state park.
I never saw anyone else until quite a while after I got into the hobby.
I agree with what others have stated already including the OP, but I also think the TV shows that started showing up about treasure hunting
and metal detecting some years ago had alot to do with it too.
The reason I say this is because that seemed to coincide with me seeing others in my area detecting later on.
I will say that I know of quite a few folks that have gotten detectors only to use them once or twice and then putting them up.
As far as more competition, I really am not concerned about that in my area other than the public swimming lakes or saltwater beaches.
It takes alot of patience, time, and determination to stick with this hobby and many simply will not do it.
And as stated above, metal detectors for use in freshwater and even saltwater are very affordable now.
 
I will say that I know of quite a few folks that have gotten detectors only to use them once or twice and then putting them up.
As far as more competition, I really am not concerned about that in my area other than the public swimming lakes or saltwater beaches.
It takes alot of patience, time, and determination to stick with this hobby and many simply will not do it.
And as stated above, metal detectors for use in freshwater and even saltwater are very affordable now.
Yup. I'm seeing fewer people detecting on the beaches these days. It seemed to peak right before the pandemic. Seems with fewer people wearing gold, more people doing all transactions with cards and not cash, that the work to find good targets has discouraged some people. Had a guy walk up to me yesterday and say he left his detector home because he had not been finding anything lately. I didn't find much yesterday but got fresh air, saw a guy catch a nice shark, take pictures and then release it, saw pelicans soaring and dolphins breaking the surface and got some much needed exercise.
 
Yup. I'm seeing fewer people detecting on the beaches these days. It seemed to peak right before the pandemic. Seems with fewer people wearing gold, more people doing all transactions with cards and not cash, that the work to find good targets has discouraged some people. Had a guy walk up to me yesterday and say he left his detector home because he had not been finding anything lately. I didn't find much yesterday but got fresh air, saw a guy catch a nice shark, take pictures and then release it, saw pelicans soaring and dolphins breaking the surface and got some much needed exercise.
A guy I know bought a brand new detector to use at the beach last Christmas and only put it together and charged it before going to the beach a couple months ago, then told me he left it at home because he did not have room for it!!
I do not look for that metal detector to get much use….🤭
 
Yup. I'm seeing fewer people detecting on the beaches these days. It seemed to peak right before the pandemic. Seems with fewer people wearing gold, more people doing all transactions with cards and not cash, that the work to find good targets has discouraged some people. Had a guy walk up to me yesterday and say he left his detector home because he had not been finding anything lately. I didn't find much yesterday but got fresh air, saw a guy catch a nice shark, take pictures and then release it, saw pelicans soaring and dolphins breaking the surface and got some much needed exercise.
A bad's day detecting still beats a good day at the office. That guy must not have been a serious detectorist, probably bought the detector on impulse after hearing about cheddar being pulled from the sand at beaches, probably didn't realize all the work & frustration involved, lol. If there are fewer and fewer guys hitting the beach with detectors, then, that's a trend thats heading in the right direction!
 
A guy I know bought a brand new detector to use at the beach last Christmas and only put it together and charged it before going to the beach a couple months ago, then told me he left it at home because he did not have room for it!!
I do not look for that metal detector to get much use….🤭
Sounds like another impulse purchase of a detector, not a serious detectorist. I think the "competition" we've heard about and/or seen are probably and mostly made up of this type of guy, not serious & not a lot of experience. They're probably newbies, watched a couple YouTube videos of detectorists pulling cheddar from the sand, and they pulled out their credit card to buy a detector before giving it a bit more serious thought. Sounds like having "no room" for the detector is an excuse. If he went to the beach a few months ago, he probably didn't find anything, because if he pulled any cheddar from the sand, he'd find room for that detector and would be looking for excuses to take his detector back. I get the feeling he didn't find much/anything, and also discovered how hard it is to walk in sand for several hours, how tiring it is to dig deep holes in the sand, especially the wet, and if he waded into shallow water, probably got a rude awakening after getting slammed by a few waves or trying to deal with rushing water while digging & trying to maintain balance. So IMHO, sounds like he got a little taste of beach hunting, but didn't like how it tasted., lol.
 
Sounds like another impulse purchase of a detector, not a serious detectorist. I think the "competition" we've heard about and/or seen are probably and mostly made up of this type of guy, not serious & not a lot of experience. They're probably newbies, watched a couple YouTube videos of detectorists pulling cheddar from the sand, and they pulled out their credit card to buy a detector before giving it a bit more serious thought. Sounds like having "no room" for the detector is an excuse. If he went to the beach a few months ago, he probably didn't find anything, because if he pulled any cheddar from the sand, he'd find room for that detector and would be looking for excuses to take his detector back. I get the feeling he didn't find much/anything, and also discovered how hard it is to walk in sand for several hours, how tiring it is to dig deep holes in the sand, especially the wet, and if he waded into shallow water, probably got a rude awakening after getting slammed by a few waves or trying to deal with rushing water while digging & trying to maintain balance. So IMHO, sounds like he got a little taste of beach hunting, but didn't like how it tasted., lol.
Well, actually in this case, he never used it after he bought it… only put it together and charged it up, then left it behind when he went to the beach a few months ago.
As far as I know he has not used it yet..
 
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