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I want to thank everyone who posted on the ATDP (Air Test Detecting Profile) Rating Question. Good thoughts & great comments.

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<FONT COLOR="#ff0000"><STRONG>THIS forum lead all the others</STRONG></FONT> in volume, content and variety of comments! <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
Detectors are alot different than cars...........I agree that estimated miles per gallon is a good comparative test that carmakers use to help people make a choice when buying a car. Now...when we start talking about your average new detector user. What is the FIRST question out of their mouth? HOW DEEP WILL IT DETECT? That is the ONLY concern they have, they don't know about discrimination, or threshold, or ground balancing or anything else....just HOW DEEP. Never mind about all the variables experienced detectorists worry about. HOW DEEP is all that counts. He will look at one of those pretty graphs and all he will see is that one line that goes all the way to the bottom.
Now, lets suppose all the detector companies decide to publish their engineering data on depth testing different models and coil combinations. Who would go first? You can bet your bottom dollar that if I manufacture detectors, my data won't be put up first so everybody can add an inch or two on their graphs. Then we would have a graph war, hehehe Wonder where it would end? We would all need to rent Bobcats with backhoe attachments instead of Lesche tools.
 
In my opinion, an independant lab would be the only solution. But....who's gonna pay for those tests? There has to be 1000 different combinations of detectors and coils and then you would have to test at least 10 of each combination to get an average that meant anything.....but, we have said all this before. Just don't believe it will ever happen.
 
Even in the case of true airtest results. If detector "A" hits a dime at 8" and detector "B" only hits it at 7" , when it comes to both detectors hitting a dime thats been in the ground for 40+ years-Detector "B" may hit it at 9" and detector "A" at 6". Looking at halos and through soil and minerals is a lot different than through air.As was mentioned, you also have all the other variables, Detector "A" hits the dime in the ground next to a rusted nail and "B" discs it out. "A" wont GB in your area and "B" will. ETC ETC <span style="background-color:#ffff00;">STILL, it's a neat idea and i'm all for it!</span> <FONT COLOR="#ff0000">Who wants to go first? <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)"></FONT>
 
AND, if you fellas agree in the golf club analogy then a machine can be built to swing the unit as one does for a golf club. The same swing the same speed the same turf etc.
In addition, perhaps a tray of different soil could be placed on the test jig to compare various ground matrix.
I say remove all the human intervention during a test and let the non-emotional machine do its thing.
We would ALL benefit.
just my two zincs
 
John. I agree with you 120%... DEPTH And HIGHEST SENSITIVITY is the "downfall" of many NEWBIES". But...can they see that???...NO!!! It will never end...my 2 zincs. Lamar
 
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