ID numbers and Andy's manual ... Question.

[Willee - Texas]

In Andy's XP Deus manual there is a chart showing the values for different coins and other targets based on the frequency you are using.

I have been using the 11" coil at 12K freq and the gold program as explained on page 119 and find the target ID numbers match up to the 18K freq column.
Either in dry sand or air testing they are very close and consistent ... what am I missing?

 

[Willee - Texas]

Just fooled with it some more.
Air test 11" coil ... Beer tab.

18K ....... 64

12K ....... 64

8k ....... 64

No matter what the frequency it ID's the same number.

 

[martygene]

There is a feature that keeps all the ID numbers the same, I can't remember what its called right now, but you might have that enabled.

 

[Dirt Fishing Bill]

Check to see if you have "normalize" on, it will set all TID numbers to the 18KHz values regardless what frequency you are at.

Hope this helps
DFB

 

[chuck ky]

Wouldn't that be the best way to hunt, where the different targets respond the same. That's the way all the other detectors are and I do see the advantage to the frequency changing the i.d. response.

 

[calabash digger]

No because you can use the 4 kh to check for iron on a suspect target, it will drop in tone and vdi I dont think it will work if the normalize feature is on.

 

[chuck ky]

all you have to do is turn the normalize off when you switch to 4 kh, a lot better than having to learn a different i.d. number for all frequencies.

 

[Willee - Texas]

Thanks everyone ... the normalize was set to "on" and that is the reason for the ID's being the same.

I think I will leave it like that for a while ... its good to know the machine is doing what it is supposed to do and not acting up.

 

[Hauptmann aD]

Also one cannot say often enough - do not rely too much on the ID or you will loose great finds.

 

[CO_T\Huntr]

ID norm also crams all of the targets into a very small window of the full scale... the chart you mentioned shows this too...
It makes the machines ability to discern ID that much harder as they're too close together when multiple targets are under the
coil....

you would be better served to turn it off and just stick with 12k for now...
The sister program at 4k mentioned is very valuable when the bottle caps and misc iron get prolific...

 

[calabash digger]

I relic hunt so I hunt more by tone than ID if its non ferrous I dig it normally on old sites. Did dig a vermont copper yesterday it was a 86 and a large flat button that was ab 86 but dug a silver war button that was in the 50s or so the numbers do help me to some extent but the tone is what I go by mostly.