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If Sun Ray made MORE different size coils for the Explorer who would order some?

digitrich

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Sun Ray makes a 5, 8 and 12 inch round. I have all three including their probe. I just wish they made more sizes as well. After owning just about every coil made from all manufacturers, it has become pretty obvious to me that my Sun Ray coils are just made better and stand up to the abuse this addict gives them. Don't get me wrong, I like other company's coils but if Sun Ray made the same size coil, I guarantee you, I would have bought theirs, in fact at this point, I would still buy theirs even if I had the same size in another brand. Lord knows Ralph has his hands full between the coils and the probes (especially since they just introduced the probe for the F-75), but someone help me talk Ralph into making more different size coils for the Explorers so we can get some. What type of shape and size coils would you guys like to see from Sun Ray. My votes for a 8 and 10 concentric, or a kind of Big Foot version. How about a 8 x 12 DD??? or an 8 x 14 DD for farm fields. That would be sweet.:thumbup: What do you guys think?
 
I just bought a sunray 8 inch coil ,, havent gotten out t with it yet , snow , looking forward to useing it , whats your opinion of the 8 inch
 
Digitrich, we first need to have a detecting problem to solve I guess.
this then leads us into seeking a coil for solving this problem...
We might need to ferret between junk to sniff out the goodies.
Maybe we have a vast amount of ground to scan, and need more ground cover capacity...
Someone else will be primarily looking for depth.

For my SE, apart from the standard coil, I have a Sunray 5", a Coiltek Joey, a Sunray X12, and a Coiltek WOT.
And the Sunray X1 pinpointer.
For what I do I can't imagine having any use for another coil...

I once had so many coils for my GP3500, I stood there once scratching my head trying to decide what coil to fit !
 
Snowy you sure got that right. Sometimes to much choice(lots of coils) is just too much choice. A larger one and a smaller one is really all I need but I usually end up with a bunch of them......lol

HH
Neil
 
You are right on Snowy... different coils for different specific needs. I'd like to agree with all you guys on the "too many choices.... which probably three sizes of coils should be adequate". And at first I thought having a small one for heavy trash, an 8 inch for everyday, and a monster for deep would cover all the bases. Then I found myself in some old researched places where there might be a seated half between two iron nails and a 2 cent piece beneath and I quickly learned the right tool for the job makes a huge difference. In this one fairgrounds, I worked the same general area (close to where the grandstands were) over and over from different angles. Then I'd switch coils and find 20 or so more relics and coins, then I'd switch to a different coil and again start finding more, and it didn't matter which coil I'd use, I would still find more stuff. If it rained, there were coils that were just about worthless, others that would come to life like I had never hunted there before (8 inch SUN RAY for one, I owe close to 100 Indian head pennies to that one alone and some are key dates). There was this particular area where the nails were infested, about a 400 square foot area, I walked across it swinging every coil as I went back to the truck literally a hundred times or more and every now and again I'd pick out an Indian or a cuff link, a button and such. Well it had just rained and the sun went down and I had my Sun Ray 8 on which previously was too large to get separation between the lots of nails and coins in that particular are (most times I needed the 5 and still had a slow go of it) and all of a sudden, I started hearing the high tones clearly between all the nails and was easily able to pinpoint them with this coil that should not have been able to do that (it's an 8 inch coil). I couldn't do it with coils half that size. It is no doubt why I have a fond liking of my SR8, for some reason, in that specific situation, that coil does what no other can do. Try it sometime. When the sun went down some coils would actually work better (power lines no longer running same voltage I guess). But each of my 13 or 14 coils had definite strong and weak points in specific areas and just about every coil had a purpose. Honestly, a new coil can bring an old site to life like a new machine can. Most people don't realize that because they are probably not working a site where their next find has the potential to pay for their machine all at once, so they don't spend the time trying how to unmask just a couple more hits, and such. If you are in a pounded park and the oldest coin you are going to find is a mercury dime, chances are, you just might not have enough incentive to pull out all the stops to pick it clean. I wouldn't. So I guess what I am saying is, first do some research and find an old site, whether its been hunted or not is absolutely unimportant, just make sure the finds that were there are valuable enough to put forth the effort. Then try different coils from different directions, at different times of day, with different amounts of soil moisture content and you will be utterly amazed how quickly you will wish for more varieties and different sizes of coils. And real quick, you will learn which ones are the bomb and which ones aren't, as well as which one is your most effective for certain situations. It started as a hobby and now I am an addicted, anal scientist.:surrender: These statements aren't directed towards you like you don't realise these things, I was just agreeing and expanding on your statement "different coils for specific needs" and giving examples of my own experiences. I still want a 4 x 14, or a 4 x 16 DD for quickly combing a farm field, wide enough coverage to move quickly, lighter than a big round, and able to go between corn stalks in a single bound!!!!:thumbup:
 
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Digitrich,
I've been thinking...

Is it possible that coils of different sizes/shapes have their own "sweet zone."
Perhaps their electro magnetic fields are optimized at deeper ~ or shallower zones.

I realise that bigger coils can give us more depth ( but usually not that much more. )

And that our smaller coils "peer" between junk allowing us to see the keepers,
but some of the stuff we begin finding again is not always deeper is it !

If this "sweet zone" was there, it MIGHT explain how a particular coil can raise more goodies at a "worked out" patch...

??? :shrug:
 
Sometimes your target is 5 inches with a nail at 7 inches, and a 10 inch or larger coil won't pick it up cause it's masked, but an 8 inch or smaller hits it like it's on the surface. This coins location maybe in an area where there isn't allot of condensed trash and so the person looking may have on a coil that's larger, saving their little coil for "the real trashy areas" Those type of targets are STILL There:thumbup: Same thing with oblong shape coils, If there is two nails at 6 inches apart about 3 inches deep and a silver coin in the middle 7 inches deep, you would have to get real lucky to pick it up with a round coil. These kinds of targets are almost like specialty targets, because as more and more public places get hunted by more and more hunters with quality equipment, they are many times, some of the only finds left.:cheers:
 
If that makes you angry, That's your problem. Guys like you enjoy jumping on someone without reading what one has posted. No one jumped on you for posting what you thought was right in your mind. That is until you felt threatened by someone with a different opinion.
I will end this now and you guys can take over where you left off. Oh, my finds....I sold $3,000.00 worth of old colonial coins and the rest were stolen with my safe and Laptop. But that's old news.
 
I wish someone would invent a way of actually being able to see the electrical field that a coil gave off, maybe through a specific type of gas, under a specific type of light or with an MRI or something. Wouldn't that just be the coolest thing, to actually be able to physically see a coils projection zone. Then you could move targets in and out of the zone and see how the ID changes on the screen when you are on the edge and in the middle of the field. Talk about learning something from an air test. Make allot of those "iffy" signals make sense, wouldn't it?? There has to be a way of doing it, with infrared or something, maybe even a heat sensor, the electrical field has to generate movement or some reliable tell of the air molecules. I've seen people make a graph with a bazillion points on it to produce a picture of a coils field but that is the closest thing I have seen and is ridiculously time consuming.
 
Digitrich, I was told that it has been done on one plane only ~ ( sheet of cardboard. )

Apparently someone dusted the cardboard sheet with a thin layer of iron oxide powder...
When a coil was scanned over the sheet you could see the fields appear on the fine iron powder.

I haven't seen it done myself....

Thought I'd share it.

One of our "techies" might jump in an comment.
 
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