If You Find The Minelab 11" Coinsearch Coil Better Snag It, Because It'sWorth It's Weight In Gold

[Critterhunter]

Spent a good bit of time searching the net for any pic of this coil or reviews of it, mainly so I could post a pic and any blurbs about it in the coil sticky. Found a few small mentions of people really liking it's performance but nothing worth posting and more importantly no pics. Then I thought, maybe I'd find it in the Findmall detector or accesseries for sale forums! Really thought I'd nail a pic of it there. Found just a few that had been posted for sale. Aha! But to my dismay one of the few for sale items in there with no pics. Even searched the beach forum thinking some Excal or Sovereign beach hunter would have remarks about it or perhaps a pic and of course this forum. Nothing. Just a few short blurbs about it. Either way, just saying it seems to be a very elusive and rare coil. I'm probably wrong but the impression I got is that it might have only been an option to buy when you purchased the original Sovereign and perhaps (?) you couldn't buy it otherwise but I'm not sure.

If anybody has one of these coils please post a pic and a short review of it, but as rare as it seems I doubt there are any in use in this forum.

 

[deepdiger60]

Hi Critter when you say rare that is no lie lol , since the search coil sticky went up i have been looking for that 11" coil on the 3 most powerful search engines the net has and 0 on that coil amazing !!! there is nothing . The closest one i came up with is the Minelab 11" Supersearch coil that came out in 1997 , ill keep looking . Jim

 

[Critterhunter]

11" Supersearch coil? I would guess that's for some other Minelab?

You aren't kidding about the 11" Coinsearch. After I had search the web's dark corners with any kind of creative wording to find it and came up blank, and after I had already scoured the Sovereign forum here on Findmall and several other sites, it then hit me that a great place to find that coil and a pic of it would be in the Findmall for sale forums. I searched the detector for sale forum as well as the accesseries one. Just used the word "coinsearch" and then "coin search" to be sure I didn't miss it, and sorted through a bunch of 8" Coinsearch for sale ads looking for it. I found like 2 or 3, maybe 4 of it for sale and thought "I've got you now!" But, no stink'in pictures in those few for sale ads!

I think the only two coils we might be missing pics and solid info/remarks on in the coil sticky are the 5" Ferret Hot Head and the 11" Coinsearch. If anybody knows of any other Sovereign mystery coils please tip us off to them. I suspect from vague memory there might have been some solid white coils sold by Kellyco in the early 90's for the Sovereign that I *think* were called Penatrators, and I'm not talking about the supposed Penetrator name I think they put on the UK versions of the Excelerator coils.

I seem to remember seeing a pic of a big white coil in their catalog that was solid but had a hole in the center, and don't think it was the solid white early version of the S-12 or the Minelab 11" Coinsearch. I remember the coil being like 12, 14, or maybe 16" in size too. I just remember reading a mini-field review of it and drooling over the coins some guy had found, wishing I had such coil options for my Whites.

 

[deepdiger60]

That Minelab SuperSeach coil 8" and 11" was for the Minelab Sterling MD it came out the same time as the CoinSearch they even look alike the CoinSearch had 2 versions 1 had a hole in the middle and the other did not at least i think it,s right ? Jim

 

[john4840]

Hey guys I found a couple of pictures of the 11 inch Coinsearch coil.

John

 

[deepdiger60]

Hi John thanks for the photo,s but that is the 8" coil the center of the coil where the rod connects is 1 " , 4 inches on either side, if that was 11" it would show much bigger left n right of the center being the center is 1" , the Sov control box is 5" across . Jim

 

[john4840]

Hi John thanks for the photo,s but that is the 8" coil the center of the coil where the rod connects is 1 " , 4 inches on either side, if that was 11" it would show much bigger left n right of the center being the center is 1" , the Sov control box is 5" across . Jim

No problem Jim. My Sovereign XS has an 8 inch Coinsearch coil on it, and it doesn't look like that coil, unless minelab made 2 different styles of the 8 inch Coinsearch coil. The lable on mine takes up more space on my coil then the one in the picture. The cable going into the coil is much closer to the lower rod then one in the picture. I stole the pictures from another forum where the guy said he bought an XS-2 with a 11 inch Coinsearch seach on it. I was just guessing it a 11 inch coil.

John

 

[Rick(ND)]

When I started with a Minelab Sovereign XS back in 1996 the 11 inch coinsearch wasn't very popular could be why there is not many used ones around. It seem like the Sun Ray S12, the white closed coil was what most wanted back then. I never tried the 11 inch coinsearch coil myself as the 8 inch was all I needed at the time and then went to the S12 of Sun Rays.
The picture of the coil posted sure looks like a 11 inch coinsearch as it is too big to be a 8 inch.

Rick

 

[Rick(ND)]

I only know of 1- 8 inch coinsearch by Minelab, the one with the hole in the center I beleive was a Hot Head made for Kellyco and sold only by them.

 

[Critterhunter]

John, it looks like you might be the man on this one! I keep going back and fourth as to if that coil looks bigger than the 8", but if I had to put money on it it looks like it is indeed a bigger coil. If it is then it has to be the 11" version. One thing I at least think I notice is that coil seems "flat" compared to the 8" Coinsearch coils I've seen. BUT...I did read a blurb somewhere where people were debating if there indeed were two versions of the 8" Coinsearch coil. I seem to remember the guy wondering if it was the right 8" Coinsearch coil that would fit a certain coil cover meant for one but not the other. There wasn't any clear answers in that thread so I don't know if there ever was two versions of that coil, as somebody said there weren't to begin with in it.

Either way, good job on the hunt for it even if this turns out not to be this ultra rare coil, and these pics are getting posted in the coil sticky along with a few of you guy's remarks to put the disclaimers out there that there is a little debate yet if this is the true rare 11" Coinsearch coil that seems so elusive. My money is on that it is, but the pictures make it hard for me to be sure about the actual size of it, so who knows?

DeepDiger, I kind of measured the width of the shaft at 1" and roughly measured out from there. Seems to me it might in fact be an 11" coil by my math, but I didn't do it precisely using a ruler in Paint or anything like that. That coil just seems to look different than the 8" Coinsearch, so if it isn't the 11" coil my money is at least on it being some kind of other version of the 8" coil.

 

[Critterhunter]

I swear this coil is like trying to get a picture of Bigfoot! But hey, I just noticed something....Above you posted a single picture of a known 8" coil. Did you notice it has ribs going outward on the coil mount ears, UNLIKE the supposed pics of the 11" coil?

Look below, where I'm posting a few more pics of the 8" Coinsearch and then the supposed 11" with them. First two pics are the 8" coil and then John's supposed picture of Bigfoot. I guess even with Bigfoot when you get a picture people have to really look at it and try to analyze if it's really too big to be human, so is this now appearant "different" coil without the white plastic brackets on the coil ears a true 11" coil or just another version of the 8" coil? The sticker does look smaller to me on the supposed 11" coil in relation to the coil's overall size. I'm sure somebody who knows how to use a ruler in paint will measure the thing out based on the known width of the shaft in the picture and put it to rest.

I think before I throw these pics of it into the coil sticky I'll wait until somebody has the answer. It's either another version of the 8" coil or the legendary bigfoot 11" Coinsearch. When we find that out I'll stick the pics of it in the coil sticky with the proper classification, just like they'll probably put Bigfoot in a zoo once they figure out what to call it.

Either way, good job John! You've either caught a picture of Bigfoot or a new species of monkey here, because as it stands right now it's an unknown animal.

 

[deepdiger60]

It is possible Critter it is a 11" coil if the rod stem is 1" then it is possible each side is 5 " ..... 5+5+1= 11", hard to tell in photo ,the center photo looks like a 11" coil with a 7' 2" coil wire , if so nice find John Jim

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/treasure-related-stuff-sale/198833-fs-like-new-coinsearch-coil-sovereign.html

 

[john4840]

Thanks guys. Here is something that I found the 8" and 11" Round Monoloop Commander coils are built like the 8" and 11" Coinsearch coils. So that has to be the 11" Coinsearch coil, check out the pictures.

John

 

[Critterhunter]

Nice work! I think I see what you are saying. If the second coil pictures is the 8" coil, then the one above without the coil ear brackets is the 11", which then means the mysterious bigfoot pictures of a Coinsearch coil without brackets must be an 11" coil as well? Sure looks like they used the same molding for both size coils on both machines, doesn't it? Still, I can't help but feel a bit of doubt yet. Somebody needs to measure the size of that mystery coil with a ruler function in paint and pin down just how big it is. That should be enough evidence for us to know if you captured a picture of bigfoot (the elusive 11" Coinsearch coil) or an unknown species of smaller monkey (a version of the 8" Coinsearch coil).

 

[john4840]

Nice work! I think I see what you are saying. If the second coil pictures is the 8" coil, then the one above without the coil ear brackets is the 11", which then means the mysterious bigfoot pictures of a Coinsearch coil without brackets must be an 11" coil as well? Sure looks like they used the same molding for both size coils on both machines, doesn't it? Still, I can't help but feel a bit of doubt yet. Somebody needs to measure the size of that mystery coil with a ruler function in paint and pin down just how big it is. That should be enough evidence for us to know if you captured a picture of bigfoot (the elusive 11" Coinsearch coil) or an unknown species of smaller monkey (a version of the 8" Coinsearch coil).

Yes you are right the second pic is the 8 inch coil and the first pic is the 11 inch coil.

John

 

[deepdiger60]

Finally i found a photo of a 8" coinsearch coil with a size comparison from left to right 8" coinsearch, 10" Tornado coil, 12" original Sun Ray S-12 Jim

 

[Ron from Michigan]

Critter,I think maybe back a few years ago the 11 inch Coinsearch coil may have filled a performance gap ,but there are coils in that size range that would out perform or work better than the old coil.The 10x12 SEF,10 inch Tornado,Sunray S-12 and the Coiltek Platypus are in this category.It would make an interesting comparison.There probably is a reason you don't hear a lot of buzz about actual use with the big Coinsearch coil.I had a chance a while back to buy one at a good price and decided to stay with the 10 inch Tornado. By the way my Tornado 800 died on me in the water,good luck finding a good used one I bought one new for $232.00 worth every penny. HH Ron

 

[Critterhunter]

Ron, for sure there are many new and currently made coils that probably go deeper than that old 11" coil. Still, just like a rare model of a hot rod, people tend to lust after what isn't easy to find. I did dig up a few small blurbs about the 11" coil and people had positive little remarks to say about it. Who knows, with the stellar reputation of the 8" Coinsearch coil, perhaps there are merits to the 11" version as well. After all, the 8" Coinsearch is still sought after to this day. I've read numerous threads (probably some from you maybe?) that praise it's ability to bring out the tones on targets, saying also that it was an easier coil for a newbie to learn out. Maybe the 11" coil has similar abilities in audio? Maybe it goes deeper than most would expect and might give even more modern coils made today a run for their money on deep targets? One will never know until they use one. I wonder how heavy it is. Being non-waterproof I suspect like the 8" coil, then I would suspect that it's a hollow coil, so the weight might not be that bad on it either.

It's been a good hunt, even though John looks to have beat me and DeepDiger to it and shot the elusive beast. He's for sure caught some kind of unknown animal, but I'm leaning towards it indeed being the 11" version of the Coinsearch and not a variety of the 8". Still waiting for somebody to confirm which but my money is on it being the 11" tall beast.

What's that old saying about a famous warrior weeping when he realized there were no more worlds to conquer? I have to admit I've had a lot of fun trying to track down photos and info on various coils long since lost to the world of Sovereign users. There are still a few more of those ghosts to chase. The 5" Ferret Hot Head coil's pic and any user reviews of that, as well as the alleged white solid Kellyco large coil which I think had a hole in the center of the early 90's that seems even more of a phantom than any perhaps?

I see (was it Rick?) somebody just remarked that might have been a Hot Head coil. If it was then I'm somewhat let down, because as a whole those coils were considered junk for most machines. Then again, it's still the hunt that matters.

These two coils to me seem even more elusive than the rare 11" Coinsearch. While I know by a few blurbs in threads that the 5" Ferret Hot Head did indeed exist, I'm going on a vague memory of me reading a Kellyco catalog in the early 90's about the other coil. I just remember drooling over the coins some guy found with it, and I think he had them laying on the coil for the picture if memory serves.

If my memory is right, and indeed that coil was for the Sovereign, then the hunt continues for not just one but two more coils in the realm cryptozoology. If somebody walks in and throws those two coil's "heads" on the table then John will have to share the glory at the old hunting lodge. I slayed one or two pics of coils myself that were sort of hard to find. Probably the best being that 8" concentric coil before the current one Kellyco sells, but nothing that was as hard of a hunt as what it appears John has bagged.

Hey John, once again...Even if that just turns out to be a version of the 8" coil (which I bet it's not), you sure deserve a round of applause for bagging that one. You must have more time on your hands than me and DeepDiger. Just a joke, 'cuz nobody has more time on their hands than me at the moment unless they are sitting in prison.

The hunt continues. Who knows...maybe there are more than just two more coils out there to bag a picture and some info on...

 

[Critterhunter]

Finally i found a photo of a 8" coinsearch coil with a size comparison from left to right 8" coinsearch, 10" Tornado coil, 12" original Sun Ray S-12 Jim

Hey Deepdiger, nice job there too! I'm going to stick your remark and the pic in the coil sticky, as I've already posted several pics of various coils grouped together in the same picture in that thread for size comparison. It makes for an easy way for people to gauge the sizes of various coils to each other when shopping around. Good job!

 

[Ron from Michigan]

Critter,would like to hear from someone who actually(yet to find) has used the Coiltek Platypus.On Ebay a Michigan dealer has one for $317.00, too high cost for a gamble no information from users.At one point I was interested in the larger Coinsearch but logic won after considerations of the other coils available.Though the 8 inch Coinsearch is a good coil and still has a following.Thanks Ron