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If your in the market for a target id detector, Tesoro.............

I guess I am missing something but why do people want tesoro to come out with a new vid machine? There are already tons of machines like that if you need one. I am all for Tesoro making new machines but I hope they keep them the way they are light weight, super sensitive, easy to pinpoint with, durable, good seperation and great depth. If they keep those things the same whether or not they throw a screen on it, who cares?
 
As an owner of multiple Tesoros including a DeLeon and Cortes I agree with Monster Tab. If Tesoro were to make a change, I'd be more than satisfied with a ground balance that affects both all metal and discrimination mode and a slightly bigger display on the Cortes. As it is, in my soil, I get very similar performance to other TID machines I've been around or used and other than the two features mentioned, don't see a need for a "new" machine.
BB
 
All the manufactures went the way of the screen being the focal point of there detectors.Well,now it has been proven by all detectorist that this digital readout is really worthless.This gives Tesoro the opportunity to do something different.Everyone loves Tesoro for the light comfort factor.Just think if the tejon became even more compact and lighter.Whenever a electronic item hits the market the first thing is to make it good, lighter,thinner.You can never make a metal detector too light and comfortable right.lighter,faster,stronger.Tesoro will stay strong.They will always be different. o_O
 
:cool: Hey, you guys ..stop telling everyone how good Tesoros are !!! There won't be anything left in the ground if the secret gets out...ssshhh:ninja:
 
Because some of us do have a use for the Target ID and because Tesoro has the better available coil selection.

HH
Mike
 
I wonder if the guys laughing were using HORRIBLE Fishers or Teknetics with VDI's that bounce so much they're unusable.
 
MichiganJason said:
I wonder if the guys laughing were using HORRIBLE Fishers or Teknetics with VDI's that bounce so much they're unusable.
I have used both Fisher and Teknetics ID machines, and found their VDI numbers to be very stable. Could have been your location. It also could have been a few flawed units that made it into your hands.
 
I had to chime in. First, anyone who thinks you need to spend a grand or more to find a coin or ring down 4 - 6 inches, then spend your money and good hunting. Minelab, Fisher, Garrett, Whites all make excellent detectors, however, having owned all of their top of the line units, I can say none of them out performed my Vaquero. The high-tech displays are nice and very informative but simply not necessary. My oldest coin, dated 1786, and most valuable piece of jewelry, valued at $3,500 were found with my Vaquero, by the way, both pieces where within 6 inches. Could I have found them with an Etrac, or an F75, sure, but I didn't need to, and that's the point. If you feel a $1500 detector will find you more then a $500 detector, then go for it. In the end its not really about the detector but the results, and, getting out there and enjoying this great hobby, right?
 
I've used an F2,F70,Teknetics Delta, Teknetics Omega, and the T2 and the only one worth the money was the Omega. The others vdi were so bouncy after 2-3inches that it was pointless to even look at it. I don't think it's my ground because Whites and Garrett TID machines work perfectly. Not to mention First Texas build quality is about as bad as they come. Look at the housing on an F5...generic as can be. I personally will never own another First Texas product. I'm glad they work well for you though. -Jay
 
MichiganJason said:
I've used an F2,F70,Teknetics Delta, Teknetics Omega, and the T2 and the only one worth the money was the Omega. The others vdi were so bouncy after 2-3inches that it was pointless to even look at it. I don't think it's my ground because Whites and Garrett TID machines work perfectly. Not to mention First Texas build quality is about as bad as they come. Look at the housing on an F5...generic as can be. I personally will never own another First Texas product. I'm glad they work well for you though. -Jay
I respectfully appreciate your opinion on these machines Jay. I have also heard great things about the Omega. It is on my list. The Deleon is also on that list. I have really never heard anything bad about that unit. I personally think that units with minimal VID are perfect. Different tones are also preferred by me. I started with Bounty Hunter machines that all have tone ID. Everyone has a preference :)
 
The Omega was actually a great detector for me Buck. You could run it hot and it stayed quiet and the target id at depth was good. The build quality isn't the best but it's a damn fine coinshooting detector. I just try to give an honest analysis for what it's worth. That's why I'm also very critical about the Garrett Ace 250. It gets glowing reviews but they are mainly from folks who stepped up from a very generic detector so obviously it would seem better. I just think for the money there are much better alternatives. I've been disappointed with detector purchases in the past and I don't want anyone else to get shafted from tainted reviews.
 
Bucksport said:
MichiganJason said:
I've used an F2,F70,Teknetics Delta, Teknetics Omega, and the T2 and the only one worth the money was the Omega. The others vdi were so bouncy after 2-3inches that it was pointless to even look at it. I don't think it's my ground because Whites and Garrett TID machines work perfectly. Not to mention First Texas build quality is about as bad as they come. Look at the housing on an F5...generic as can be. I personally will never own another First Texas product. I'm glad they work well for you though. -Jay
I respectfully appreciate your opinion on these machines Jay. I have also heard great things about the Omega. It is on my list. The Deleon is also on that list. I have really never heard anything bad about that unit. I personally think that units with minimal VID are perfect. Different tones are also preferred by me. I started with Bounty Hunter machines that all have tone ID. Everyone has a preference :)

I know this is Tesoro forum and shouldn't be comparing other brands. Had both the Tek Delta & Omega and Fisher F5 of the three I liked the F5 the best but it hurt my elbow after an hour.......I was not impressed with the Delta or Omega, due to EMI everywhere, almost never could run more than 55 sensitivity. At 55, no better than Silver Umax. My finds did not increase using them, found just as much or more when I went back to a Tesoro Beep and digs and my PI. The Delta is my wife's, still have it, she's not too crazy about it , more than happy to sell it and have her try a Deleon. Now I will say I liked the Delta better than the Omega. LOL, just thinking my old Amigo II could probably get the close to same depth as those Teks using the same size coils. Overall, think the Tesoros work just fine for most applications at the depths most targets are found at. I do have an open mind and do look at other brands and machines see what they are all about..........just not sure I like spending $700-1500 on a machine............
 
reddirtfisher said:
:cool: Hey, you guys ..stop telling everyone how good Tesoros are !!! There won't be anything left in the ground if the secret gets out...ssshhh:ninja:

Earlier I was thinking, the city I now live in has been hunted to death for the past 30 years or so. Noticed most of the club members I joined have ID machines
as well as the general public buy them from any Walmart, Radio Shack etc.
I am surprised how much stuff was missed...........................when I go to those spots.................using a beep and dig.
 
I'm pretty new to the Tesoro world Sven but I think I'm going to do just fine with them. I know for sure I'll find more jewelry and tokens with a Tesoro which is fine by me. Got the Cortes all polished up and ready to go. Can't wait. -Jay
 
Mike Hillis said:
Because some of us do have a use for the Target ID and because Tesoro has the better available coil selection.

HH
Mike

Mike, liked my F5, if only it could have been packaged like in an Omega control box set-up. As you know, I tried everything to get it to balance correctly,
so not to aggravate the elbow tendentious in my swinging arm. So it had to go. If not for that would still own it.
 
mike5853 said:
I had to chime in. First, anyone who thinks you need to spend a grand or more to find a coin or ring down 4 - 6 inches, then spend your money and good hunting. Minelab, Fisher, Garrett, Whites all make excellent detectors, however, having owned all of their top of the line units, I can say none of them out performed my Vaquero. The high-tech displays are nice and very informative but simply not necessary. My oldest coin, dated 1786, and most valuable piece of jewelry, valued at $3,500 were found with my Vaquero, by the way, both pieces where within 6 inches. Could I have found them with an Etrac, or an F75, sure, but I didn't need to, and that's the point. If you feel a $1500 detector will find you more then a $500 detector, then go for it. In the end its not really about the detector but the results, and, getting out there and enjoying this great hobby, right?

:thumbup: mike 5853 i agree with you. I own several top of the line detectors, fishers, minelabs, whites, and they are great, fishers with great depth and fantastic recovery speed and tid. minelabs are incredible with great versatility and depth and tid, 'but a bit heavy', whites have great depth, very versatile, and great full color display tid, 'but also a bit heavy. Tesoros are light weight, very economical, very trustworthy, and will do anything a machine costing 3 times as much. " my thoughts" If any detectorist out there wants "a machine with a screen", there are plenty out there, get you one. Tesoros are great and in my opinion doesn't need tid.
 
Guys if i can butt in and give my 2 cents, most of you can say you hear changes in the pitch,or tone,when you hit a target,this tells you if its trash or a good target and if you want to dig. Had my hearing tested two wks.ago,5 of the6 pitches show severe hearing loss,only thing lower is deaf. Now because of this i need a machine that gives me a good read out that's why i use a Deleon,i can not hear those changes in pitch,or the little differences that you use to decide weather to dig or not.I would bet my deleon gives the same pitch change or what ever that you get,i just cant hear it like you do, so i relay on a screen to help me out.Tesoro says if you get 3 bars or a smear that it is usually junk or trash,but if you really look at the smear one of those bars may be a hairs width taller then the others that is my pitch change and it is pretty accurate.The machine didn't lie to me its telling me that this is the best estimate that i can give you.Some of us really do need a screen and if we really learn it we do quite well.Please quit saying that a tid machine lies and makes you lazy,you do this to your self,not the machine.Tid works you need more time to learn it
 
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