jim in bklyn
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Hi all....just purchased the infinium LS (will receive it in a couple days) and was wondering if anyone can give me a heads up on this detector. This is my first Garrett and hopefully it will not be my last. Thanks Jim
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Infinium
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lazyaussie
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just pop over to the infin classroom on this forum you should get some great info there.
Buy the 14 inch mono coil it's a better coil for the beaches. It will also find gold chains the DD coil will not.You will need to buy a water headset too.when you ground bakance it,set it on the ground turnit on let it set for about 30 to40 sec. and then go huntting. Good luck have fun Ron Lord ,Naples ,FL.
I use mine in the Atlantic ocean in Florida and was having similar problems; posted the same questions here and on other forums only to find most owners have had some type of problems with the machine.
Here is what I have learned after a year of owning the Infinium, It has been sent in twice for repairs that included the DD coil being replaced both times (shielding problems), a loose solider connection on the circuit board and recalibration on the second trip. The folks at Garrett were great , they fielded my questions and made the repairs at no charge as they were covered under warranty. Once I got my Infinium back I read posts where users did everything from turning the threshold all the way past max and back, to running the unit with the threshold at zero and a ton of other things. I decided to conduct my own test so I took my Infinium with the DD coil to my local beach dug two six inch deep holes in the dry sand tied a strings to a 14K ring and 10K ring buried each in a separate hole, ground balanced the machine set the threshold at 4 and listened (the 4 setting on my unit is just above silent) and I was able to run the discrimination at zero......as I increased the discrimination the obvious happened past 4 the unit began to give erratic signals and could not identify the rings . The below 4 the unit had no problem giving the HI/LO but as I decreased the threshold to zero the unit had a harder time identifying the rings and the tone seemed to give off echos. I then moved to wet sand and conducted the same experiment and had similar results but to get the unit relatively quite I had to move the discrimination to 1. That being said it still gave the HI/LO.... until the discrimination was turned past 4 the results were the same as the dry sand...I have never been able to get the unit really quite in the surf but it is better since the last trip in for repairs.
Here are some tones my machine makes on certain items: zinc pennies give an echo as the coil comes to the end of the swing. Bottle caps give a HI/LO but the LO tone seems drawn out or longer , bobby pins have there own distinct sound. Clad coins LO/HI. These sounds are what I have found on my unit it may or may not be that way for others. MOST IMPORTANTLY SLOOOOOW DOWN THE SWING!!!!!!! I have used a Whites Pi for twenty years and could swing it much faster than the Infinium. I found that slowing down the swing has allowed me to find deeper items I was missing, as the coil approaches a target you will start to hear a tonal change even if you don't get a solid signal( HI/LO or LO/HI). If this happens I stop then go over the area extremely slow to check for a solid signal.
My opinion of the Infinium: it is a deep PI machine but I can't say it is any deeper than my Whites PI , with the DD coil it is heavy , not a machine for beginners,costumer service was great. Over all in spite of the problems I have still found clad coins, silver jewelery (really seems to like silver) and a nice 3 gram 10K gold medallion plus the expected ton of junk from using a PI machine. If I had it to do again I would have purchased the Whites duel field but that's just me....
Here is what I have learned after a year of owning the Infinium, It has been sent in twice for repairs that included the DD coil being replaced both times (shielding problems), a loose solider connection on the circuit board and recalibration on the second trip. The folks at Garrett were great , they fielded my questions and made the repairs at no charge as they were covered under warranty. Once I got my Infinium back I read posts where users did everything from turning the threshold all the way past max and back, to running the unit with the threshold at zero and a ton of other things. I decided to conduct my own test so I took my Infinium with the DD coil to my local beach dug two six inch deep holes in the dry sand tied a strings to a 14K ring and 10K ring buried each in a separate hole, ground balanced the machine set the threshold at 4 and listened (the 4 setting on my unit is just above silent) and I was able to run the discrimination at zero......as I increased the discrimination the obvious happened past 4 the unit began to give erratic signals and could not identify the rings . The below 4 the unit had no problem giving the HI/LO but as I decreased the threshold to zero the unit had a harder time identifying the rings and the tone seemed to give off echos. I then moved to wet sand and conducted the same experiment and had similar results but to get the unit relatively quite I had to move the discrimination to 1. That being said it still gave the HI/LO.... until the discrimination was turned past 4 the results were the same as the dry sand...I have never been able to get the unit really quite in the surf but it is better since the last trip in for repairs.
Here are some tones my machine makes on certain items: zinc pennies give an echo as the coil comes to the end of the swing. Bottle caps give a HI/LO but the LO tone seems drawn out or longer , bobby pins have there own distinct sound. Clad coins LO/HI. These sounds are what I have found on my unit it may or may not be that way for others. MOST IMPORTANTLY SLOOOOOW DOWN THE SWING!!!!!!! I have used a Whites Pi for twenty years and could swing it much faster than the Infinium. I found that slowing down the swing has allowed me to find deeper items I was missing, as the coil approaches a target you will start to hear a tonal change even if you don't get a solid signal( HI/LO or LO/HI). If this happens I stop then go over the area extremely slow to check for a solid signal.
My opinion of the Infinium: it is a deep PI machine but I can't say it is any deeper than my Whites PI , with the DD coil it is heavy , not a machine for beginners,costumer service was great. Over all in spite of the problems I have still found clad coins, silver jewelery (really seems to like silver) and a nice 3 gram 10K gold medallion plus the expected ton of junk from using a PI machine. If I had it to do again I would have purchased the Whites duel field but that's just me....
The things that give most LS users fits are the need for ground balancing and frequency adjustment.
These are desirable features when one is searching the gold fields and have been designed into the LS for that reason.
The very things that cause all the fuss are what make the LS an exceptional machine for water hunting.
Learn how to tune the machine for your hunting ground and re-tune as needed ( search the Infinium Classroom Forum and the Infinium Prospector Forum for details) and your finds score will improve immensely!
Many times not knowing this fact has caused the new user to give up on the LS, but hang in and learn and you will not be sorry you did!!
CJ
These are desirable features when one is searching the gold fields and have been designed into the LS for that reason.
The very things that cause all the fuss are what make the LS an exceptional machine for water hunting.
Learn how to tune the machine for your hunting ground and re-tune as needed ( search the Infinium Classroom Forum and the Infinium Prospector Forum for details) and your finds score will improve immensely!
Many times not knowing this fact has caused the new user to give up on the LS, but hang in and learn and you will not be sorry you did!!
CJ
jim in bklyn
New member
Thanks for all the tips. I had the LS out this morning (surf was high from Bill, and I thought right then and there, it'll be a bad day as the tide brought in a lot of new sand)....first thing, ground balanced it fine, started swinging and not more than 10 steps, got a good signal, a nickel...well, I figured that's a great way to start but it ended there. It took about an hour or so to find my next coin, a quarter. But I'll say this, if bottle caps were money, I'd be a rich man today. I have never dug so many caps in my 20 years of detecting. Ok, my next test was similar to Scrooge's...only I used my silver .925 ring at close to 8 inches down, nothing, absolutely nothing...fiddled with the disc, nothing, tried upping the threshhold, nothing, reground balanced, nothing. Did another test, this one about 3 inches, and only got a very low signal, ok I'll accept that for at least it's a signal that was diggable. Believe me, I'm not knocking the LS, only that I need to get a lot more hours in to be a tad more proficient with it. I have never given up on a machine to date and this one is no different. I'll be heading to England next month and was hoping to get to where I can be comfortable taking it with me. Time will tell. Thanks again, Jim
Willee - Texas
Well-known member
What ????
A low sig at 3 inches???
Tell me it aint so!
I am seriously considering turning the unopened Infinity back around to Garrett for a Sea Hunter Mark II.
If this machine will not out depth my Excalibur II in the salt water, I will be very disappointed.
Willee
A low sig at 3 inches???
Tell me it aint so!
I am seriously considering turning the unopened Infinity back around to Garrett for a Sea Hunter Mark II.
If this machine will not out depth my Excalibur II in the salt water, I will be very disappointed.
Willee
jim in bklyn
New member
Hi Willee..Please don't make a decision on my post. When I did that test, the machine was in my hands for all of an hour or so. I'm a slow learner and I'll bet dollars to donuts that given a week or so I"ll hear that ring a lot deeper than the 3 inches. Regards, Jim
PS: I had the Excalibur (late 90s version) but traded it in as I didn't like the fact that the coils were not interchangeable (other than sending it back to ML for an upgrade) and the hip mount thing was cumbersome. At least with the Infinium you have a choice of coils. But again, time will tell. Take care.
PS: I had the Excalibur (late 90s version) but traded it in as I didn't like the fact that the coils were not interchangeable (other than sending it back to ML for an upgrade) and the hip mount thing was cumbersome. At least with the Infinium you have a choice of coils. But again, time will tell. Take care.
jim in bklyn
New member
I'm learning that as well Scrooge. Quite different than my other detector and I will have to learn to slow down a bit. But it'll take a while before all this new stuff sinks into my head. One other thing about the Infinium....the shaft seems to wobble a lot. I don't want to go for that shaft that is advertised for nearly $150 so I think I'll put a few holes in this shaft I have and make it a little sturdier. When I first started using it, I thot the shaft was going to fly off (maybe that's a good reason to slow down).
jim in bklyn
New member
I just tightened all the screws. The arm rest was also loose but fixed that. I'll give this a try and with the slow motion, perhaps that will fix it.If not, I'll go for the tape. Funny Garrett would let something like this get thru...
Willee - Texas
Well-known member
scrooge said:
That should not be a problem as I fairly go slow in the water anyway compared to the dry sand.
Willee