Interested in feedback or thoughts on this setup for the Ferrous discussion

[Andy Sabisch]

After spending more time trying to get the E-Trac to do what some have been asking for or the way they hunted with the Explorer, I

 

[Chris(SoCenWI)]

Andy,

Just curious to the thought process that led Minelab down this path. It seems that many of the improvements they have made to the Explorer series over the years have been in response to user complaints/suggestions. The mapping seems out of the blue. What was the goal? Where did it come from?

Chris

 

[Rigit]

And would you know the breakpoints for CO tones just so I can complete the picture, I am looking to show on my graph where the breakponts are.

Cheers

 

[digitrich]

I don't believe this is ML's attempt at us going out and milking pounded sites as much as going to new sites and having the machine "cherry pick" for us. Maybe to give wealthier newbies a chance of being able to come out of the box digging targets most had to master their machines to accomplish. Granted a master with a machine that tells you more will still find more, but I am beginning to believe, that maybe experienced Explorer users were not ML's main marketing goal with this machine. Or they would have left it the option of "easier"; less discrimination hunting. Like I mentioned earlier, an SE with a faster processor would have suited most, just fine. I would buy that machine right now, if ML sold it, probably trade my ETrac for it, without any regrets.

 

[Rigit]

I have overlaid Andy's FE tone break points to the XLS chart graph
Also I have added Jims Chart as compiled by Texan23

Rigit's E-Track Pages

 

[Andy Sabisch]

In CO audio, the break points on the CO scale for audio response are as follows:

2 TONE:
----------------
1 to 25 = low
26 to 50 = high

4 TONE
---------------
1 to 10 = lowest
11 to 25 = medium low
26 to 38 = medium high
29 to 50 = highest

The point with the 4-tone drawing was to give the FE audio hunters an option that could be used and provide ID of good targets vs ferrous targets which is the main reason FE audio was used previously.

Nice job on the overlay with the FE audio / 4 tones and the targets . . . . . . interesting to see where the targets tend to fall out

 

[Hard Nosed Dave]

I have been using this setting with the 4 tone option and in areas where there is a lot of iron oxide in the form of a red pebble(sticks to a magnet) and also littered with decaying bits of iron and that red pebble decaying. The E-trac does see through this stuff and seems to NOT be affected by it. Whenever it goes over solid iron it will indicate the lowest tone and it seems not to false on deep buried iron to the point that you could be led to believe that the high tone might be a non ferrous target like silver.
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Wasn't that hard to figure out it what was going to be the best...for me at least. I'm sure that most will get the hang of the E-trac as they start venturing along with the it.
The first thing I did, without hesitation last week when I got the E-trac, is to use the 4 tones instead of Multi tones and rely on the rock solid digital indications and the relevant placement of the curser/crosshair.
I also found that if your not interested in looking at the number readout , that a very tight Quickmask screen is a pretty good for "cherry picking" silver and copper coins in my part of the world anyway.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?19,800329,800631#msg-800631

"Hang on.....If you put the E-trac in Tone ID.. Sounds Ferrous and reduce No. of Tones to 4 rather than Multi tones in a wide open Quickmask screen , I think you'll find what you're looking for using Sounds Ferrous including a variation of Ferrous digital number values. It seems to be working for me.

Higher tones for more conductive non ferrous objects. Low tones for iron.

Welcome back Explorer style All Metal detecting in the E-trac

In QuickMask the default setting for Ferrous (FE) is

 

[Elevatorguy]

n/t