Iron bleed through signals on the F2...

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I posted this yesterday on another forum, might as well post it here too for the many F2 users we have over here.

This was just a rusted pocket knife find, not worth anything at all but still cool better than a piece of garbage.
The best part is I am so attuned to my F2 this signal spoke to me because of 3 different clues and came in as iron but I still was able to find it even with iron notched out on the great F2.
99% of the time I would have just bypassed this false iron signal, but on this one instinct kicked in and led me to dig up a nice little surprise.

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This one is for the little more advanced users and a good example on using all the clues and your instincts no matter what the screens and tones are telling you.

Why I bent down to dig this thing is hard to explain because it was more about a "feeling" than anything else but I will try.

This signal was a false one when I ran over it, I got one false tone that was pretty solid and a 79 on the screen at first pass which fooled me but more passes over it the signal went away so I knew it was false.
I turned and hit this thing from another angle and nothing was there so I knew there was no real high tone target here but I turned back and tried to find it again.
I usually would forget this and move on but that first tone did seem to have something a little more solid in it then I usually hear on the many others I usually come across hunting on max sense in my sites with lots of iron.
When I turned back I got many more false tones that repeated almost in the same place and I could tell this was a small iron object because of the way I moved my coil over it and got those false tones in that small area.
The false tones only happened when the edge of my coil was over the target, not the center of the coil.
I notched iron back in and got a solid 08 so I knew this was definitely iron and using the pinpoint button to find the exact location I realized it wasn't really big just as I suspected.
The false tones I heard were accompanied by false numbers but instead of being in the 80's, 90's or higher like most large iron these were still in the high 70's...also something very unusual for most iron I come across out there.

I instantly processed all this information and I got real curious so I dug it and came up with this nice pocket knife with an unusual metal jacket instead of the plastic sides that I find on most of the knives I dig up.

It was 08 iron and solid when I air tested it.

Regular size iron nails and other small iron targets won't false like this so I knew this was larger than those but still not a huge chunk of metal.

This was all about instinct and about hearing something even in that false tone and those weird numbers and the strange small size on a falsing piece of iron that triggered my impulse to dig.


Watch the video, this all happens pretty fast but all of this stuff was going through my mind when I picked up and then examined this signal a little more closely.
It wasn't just one thing it was all these things that added together that made me curious.

Sometimes instinct means more than anything you hear or see on the screen.

I am getting a little better with the editing stuff, not quite great yet but getting closer.

You can change to 1080p HD and change to full screen to see a little bit more of what is happening on my screen when I rolled over this thing.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6qPr6T2dSI&feature=c4-overview&list=UUpjgKU3qrKYB57QV5wB3yog[/video]

 

[mudpuppy]

Yeah! Good work! i'm plotting a run this am...checking all the football schedules from last night...too warm to go outside the wire today...(those that are in the bad section of town) Good Luck to you today REVIER!
Mud

 

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Good instincts digger. I've also noticed those same falsing similarities with the F70 and come up with a few surprise items at times. Interesting how the F series detectors have their similarities in this situation. One of the reasons I really like the F70 is the two mode option . I use mode one for auto tones which has no discrimination or notching options and is where I always ground balance. This mode is also good for second opinions on signals like you were referring to in this topic. Auto tones has only one pitch audio and only sounds with motion over the target and like pinpointing increases with pitch in close proximity . With auto tones you still get a very accurate VDI which also reports the false signals numbers when jumpy. I always run more sensitivity in this mode to see if jumpy signals in fact are good tones at the fringe of what ever depth settings I am using in mode 2 and dirt and confidence meters also work in this mode. Easier to jump between modes than changing sensitivity and threshold settings as all settings in both modes are retained even if the detector is turned off.
On your particular target, the pocket knife, I would have mistaken that as being an iron target masking a clad dime or all copper penny. I would have dug it so the out come would have been the same. Sorry about getting long here and didn't want to hijack your thread but I thought you might find the F series similarities interesting. Thanks for sharing the video .------HH

 

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I have always suspected that all the F series models are very similar in their language and how they act.
I also think that unlike some other brands where their lower end units work nothing like their top end counterparts, considering the sensitivity and the way it works the F2 is really an F70 or F75 just without a few whistles and a couple of bells and that is why I always believed the F2 is still one of the best values out there for a starter detector with a screen.
Add in the price on those multiple coil packages and that just increases that value many times.
I have a real affinity for my F2...sometimes you just click with certain detectors and I certainly did with this one and seem to be able to get the best out of when I hunt and I am still learning and trying to get even better.
One day I will probably get something high end and I really had some thoughts about a V3i because I love messing around with settings and experimenting and on that one you can do this on just about everything.
Then I think I already know the F series language pretty well so the logical thing would be an F70 or F75 to take advantage of that, it would be easy to make a seamless transition and see what I would be capable of with something like those units in my hand.
As soon as I get bored with my F2 and it stops finding me some of the greatest treasure of my career I will probably do that.
The problem is that just doesn't seem to be happening yet, not even close to that, so as long as the hits keep coming I am very satisfied on what I can do with my F2 and what it can find.
I don't do too bad at all with this so called "beginner's detector"...me and my little F2 seem to make one heck of a team.

 

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Yeah! Good work! i'm plotting a run this am...checking all the football schedules from last night...too warm to go outside the wire today...(those that are in the bad section of town) Good Luck to you today REVIER!
Mud

Good luck to you too, Mud!

I am just about to get dressed and head over to my local Jr. college where I have been cleaning up the sidelines of an old football field and two soccer fields and and the site where I found this knife.
Lots of trash but I am slowly cleaning them up and I have found lots of clad so far but also silver and gold among all the tabs and can slaw and foil.
Still more there to find, I suspect, and I am just the kind of guy with the patience to find it if it is there.