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Is The Infinium The Holy Grail PI Detector?

John-Edmonton

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"The Infinium does have some discrimination characteristics. It's not like an accumulative type or notch found on VLF type detectors. In fact, the Infinium is entirely different then any other type of detector. What the Infinium can do as far as discrimination is concerned, is give a tone HIGH-LOW for iron, aluminum and gold. It also gives off a LOW-HIGH signal for silver, copper and again iron. So iron and other junk is always the wild card in both types of signals, as it is a Pulse Induction type of detector. However, the Infinium also comes with an iron check, which again helps with getting a better probability of what type (iron or not?) target it is. Now the Infinium has a bit of a learning curve, and if you are new to metal detecting and lack basic theory on how the machines operate, don't buy one. It will be a lesson in frustration for you.

Now having said that, other little techniques are on your learning curve to be discovered. For instance, the smoothness/roughness of the tone gives a hint as to whether it is an iron rusted target or not. The "Sustain" length of time that the Infinium gives after reading a target gives you a hint as to its size. The Infinium gives a double bleep on bobby pins and wire. So......if you only want to dig gold, only dig the HIGH-LOW signals. That removes a lot of signals that you can leave in the ground. Also, use the iron check, which even cuts out more targets. If you want to dig mostly coins, including old deep silver, dig only the LOW-HIGH signals. Again....use the iron check.

Is the Infinium the holy grail of detectors? No it isn't. It's a PI and loves iron, like all PI's. Iron can not be discriminated out like a VLF detector. But it goes DEEP! It must be ground balanced and a proper frequency must be picked for maxamum performance. I have pulled rings out at over 14 inches with a nice strong signal. It is one of (if not the) deepest machines available. It was designed to get gold in some of the highest mineralized soils in the world. It works in all salt water/beach environments and is water proof too.

Is it a good coin shooter? Perhaps, but only in areas where there are few targets. It's not practical for park environments, as it picks up all metals, even those that your VLF will miss. I have had some success using it in the woods, digging only the LOW-HIGH signals. It should also perform well at relic hunting too.

Where it worked best for me was in hunted out beaches where most of the targets had been removed. The best beach hunters dig ALL targets. The Infinium isn't for everyone, and is not a do it all detector. But if you give it the time it deserves to learn it properly, and use it in its proper environment, it is a killer. I have my best gold ring year ever in 15 years using this machine."
 
Well said John. This should help anyone, understand the Infinium a little more,and as a rule, low and slow you will find more.:garrett::wiggle:
 
Wow, it is so nice to have an Infinium LS Forum now! I really like the concept of the Infinium.

Garrett says it all in their catalog: "If you prefer the road less traveled, far removed from the concrete jungles of civilization where man is but a mere guest of nature, then the Infinium LS is the detector for you. Whether it's 200 feet below the sea or on top of the snow-peaked mountain, the Infinium LS pushes ahead in those rugged, mineralized conditions where other detectors crumble. Looking for gold in Australia or Arizona? Searching volcanic rockslides of the Pacific Northwest or the black-sand beaches along Italy's coast? Then take the Infinium LS ("land and sea" model). The waterproof design of this versatile machine makes it the first metal detector highly recommended for both land detecting and underwater diving".

For me those words conger-up dreams of adventure! The Infinium goes deep, is very portable, waterproof and uses a small battery pack. Exactly what a traveling treasure hunter needs. I'm in the beginning stages of planning a South American platinum prospecting adventure. My detectors of choice will be 2 Infiniums. CC.
 
Hi Gang,

This is a great idea!! Infinium Class!! I would like to pat myself on the back for having someone pick up on my "Infinium 101" idea and run with it as a Forum. Good Show Folks. It's time we are able to find LS information without having to look abroad!! The LS is an American made machine and even though it was largely developed as an Aussie gold field detector, it it seemed odd to have to seek information from the other side of the world.

If there is enough interest I can transfer my Infinium 101 posts here to put their information in a "more appropriate" venue?? (As I mentioned in these posts, I was sharing my experiences as a newcomer to the LS in an on going series of posts, about my problems and what I was learning by way of these experiences and from those more experienced than myself.)

It's another idea anyway, let me know.

Congratulations,

Cupajo
 
Hi Gang,

It occurred to me that my post (above) might be miss-understood as being "Anti-Aussie" or some other offensive attitude!! That's not where I'm at. I have the greatest respect for the folks "down under" and I know that the LS wouldn't exist without the input from some of their finest technical minds. Please consider this an apology to anyone offended!!

Respectfully,

Cupajo
 
Howdy from down under Cupajo, I certainly did'nt take any offense at your post. I think it,s great to be able to learn about your detector, and it's use,:detecting: in the enviroment that you live in. What works here may not have the same implications for use in USA. I personally think the Infinium LS is a fantastic unit, I've found more nuggets with it than any other machine I've used, and the depth is superb. It's a good combination of the best minds from USA and OZ getting together and manufacturing the ultimate PI detector. Lots of luck in the field!!!! HH regards Nugget.
 
But how do you think the Infinium might compare to the Whites DF? With the DF I hear one can somewhat discriminate by ear. That the DF almost responds with an audio more like a VLF? Perhaps with regular use one might become deadly on gold range targets by audio quality? Sure one will dig more junk, but also more gold? CC.
 
The Whites does NOT respond more like a VLF. It's electronically configerated to operate as a PI. You have to learn the subtle changes in tone of a target. It takes time to learn these. If someone told you that the Whites acts like a VLF, they are feeding you a lot of misinformation. I would run the other way quickly. There will be subtle tone changes with the Whites, depending on how you set it up, as in all PI's to help identify some targets. Nobody has built a recriminating PI yet.
 
Both Andy S. and Clive C. say the PI Pro/DF audio sounds somewhat like a VLF- in that one can learn to discriminate by ear... or audio quality of detected targets. (ramp up and down) Along with a fast recovery/response time To a point that is true. I recently tested a DF at a dealer and discovered many junk type targets were drawn out sounding and I would not dig those in the field. Obviously one will dig more junk with a PI, but most have heard that one will eventually learn to recognise deep and round sounding targets with use. I am by no means a PI Pro- I have used Excaliburs for years. But I am always looking for an edge or advantage and feel the right PI might provide that. If I learn it.

I just purchased a used BHID 300, BHID 9.5 and PI Pro with M6 style 9.5 to test on gold jewelry. So far I'm really impressed with the VLF 9.5 BHID Super Tuned! I'm still waiting for the PI Pro.

On my Caribbean trips I have tried many machines and so far the Excalibur cleans house! I have tried PIs and found less- far less gold! But I am not ready to give up on them. I keep thinking with regular use a PI will be deadly on gold in the sea! I tried the Infinium. I like it! But it drove me crazy in the water! I found the dual tones loud and obnoxious! After 3 hours and no gold I gave up. I concluded the Infinium was a better gold detector than water machine. 1 day I may try an Infinium again. It is a great detector that does go deep. When I tested in the salt sand I got about 14 inches on an average gold band. It would go deeper but I found the response at those depths became just whispers. Which is OK- so long as one listens for them. And I mean whisper of the tones. At the time I felt the Infinium was the deepest water machine I had used and I spent 20 minutes digging pull tabs in neck-deep water! But depth is not everything on short vacation time- ground coverage is also important and the Infinium is a slower machine. The DF users I personally know tell me 20 plus inches on rings is a reality with the DF when tuned. I believe them and feel as deep as an Infinium is, the newer DF goes deeper. Side by side in the field, I would put my money on the DF for depth and perhaps someone has already done that?

I know a DF will be in my detector stable soon and may become my main beach machine. I just like the simplicity of 1 tone and the speed of the machine to cover ground. I would rather listen for tone quality and decide in seconds weather to dig or not on the beach, than spend time interpreting dual tones and playing with reverse discrimination. But again the Infinium is one of the Greats- But there's a newer guy in town and it's the DF. Both are great PIs! CC.
 
Chris, have you tried any of the mono coils?

The Infinium really takes time to learn.......once you get used to the tones it's lethal!
I've had my highest gold count since Dec, 09 to now.

You can't really know this machine without less than 40 hrs of use.

The 14" mono will hit chains and small gold and I don't dig bobby pins.:thumbup:
 
The Infinium does have a language all to its own. It's not for everyone. Those who have taken the challenge, put in the time to learn it well have done very well. :thumbup:

Below are the results from my first year. I actually started using it in the snow hills in January so that I could get a head start on learning it's secrets.
 
Well that is very good to hear! Especially on the gold chains! I may just have to give the Infinium a second try! Will gold chains tone ID? Are they solid hits or ghost signals? I did use the 14 mono because pinpointing was easier. But I did not give the Infinium a fair chance. I guess at the time I was too much of an Excal guy!? I did test the Infinium in my test garden and at local beach and I liked it as a detector. Real Estate agents often called upon me to locate property stakes and I always used the Infinium for that! Thanks, CC.
 
Nice gold there- I may just have to give the Infinium a second look! Excaliburs find lots of gold for me, but I know there should be deeper gold I am missing at certain beaches. Also gold chains. That is why I'm always looking for a better machine, or another gold tool for specific jobs. The problem is while on vacation there is limited time to hunt. So far Excaliburs have done the best job detecting potential gold targets in the least time. Perhaps the tone ID with the Infinium would also be of use as far as a PI goes? Limiting junk dug? Photo is 1 trip of Excalibur gold! CC.
 
You are doing fantastic! By the way, that book "PULSEPOWER" by Clive James Clynick is an excellent book to read no matter which PI one is using.
 
Indeed!:biggrin:I agree. All of Clynick's books are excellent reads and filled with helpful hints for any detectorist regardless of brand preference.:wiggle:
 
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