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Is the Omega 8000 a repackaged Fisher F70?

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Mick in Dubbo

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Apart from a few minor differences, ie, Frequency, battery and handle arrangement, is there any real difference in these 2 detectors. Is there anything about them in the field that makes the Omega 8000 a better detector than the Fisher F70? I've been looking closely at the F70 but I can't see any real differences between these 2 detectors. Unfortunately, there are no shops here in Australia in where I can walk in and physically walk in and play around with them. Fisher or Tecknetics.
Thanks.
Mick Evans.
 
My understanding is that there are differences in the electronics as well as the monor physical differences you mentioned. I have an omega 8000. Works well. The principle engineer for both lines has given at least one interview about the teknetics line and your doubts...If I remember right...and its on the Teknetics site.

I also asked the Teknetics support about coils and other items such as Sunray probes that work on fisher products, working on the similar Teknetics and was told that they would not work. Now, that comes from them..and it would be in their self interest to say that. But if they dont, then that shows that the electronics is different. Actually considering the doubts and all being out there, the two companies should make public statements and addresss the issue directly.
 
Same circuit in both units. The audio in iron appears to have the edge, along with the emphasis being placed more on manual control with the F5.

If the coil works on the Omega, it will work on the F5. The other Greek series coils will work also. A connector change may need to be done, and this is most likely why Fisher said they would not work together.

Mr. Bill
 
Mr.Bill said:
Same circuit in both units. The audio in iron appears to have the edge, along with the emphasis being placed more on manual control with the F5.
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Hmmmm....ok, Mr Bill, you are the expert around here so will take your word for it.


If the coil works on the Omega, it will work on the F5. The other Greek series coils will work also. A connector change may need to be done, and this is most likely why Fisher said they would not work together.

Mr. Bill
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Ok, I see. Thanks for letting us know about that. I especially am glad to know it. That raises some questions in my mind as to why it was done this way with them. I guess kind of like General Motors in the new car biz. Just doesnt seem right though. I think I am going to pick up an F70 coil and check it out, The problem being is the knowing where the wiring should go on the connectors if you can get them. Or if it would be easier to simply make an adapter. I doubt Ist Texas is going to hand over coil wiring diagrams to even customers wanting to make custom changes.
 
Mr.Bill said:
Same circuit in both units. The audio in iron appears to have the edge, along with the emphasis being placed more on manual control with the F5.

If the coil works on the Omega, it will work on the F5. The other Greek series coils will work also. A connector change may need to be done, and this is most likely why Fisher said they would not work together.

Mr. Bill
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I'm a little confused - is it like the F5 or the F70 or are those two machines the same board??
 
In my haste, I wasn't paying attention. F70 = take off on F75. F5 & Omega 8000 "=".

Sorry about that.

Bill
 
Dennis

I made a mistake, and read it wrong. I was thinking F5, and not what the question asked, (F70).

The Omega 8000 is not a copy of the F70.

Omega & F5 share the same circuit.

Bill
 
It is a different machine and I love it compaired to the F70.
 
Ok, understood. Heck, I misread stuff all the time, Bill. No problemo. But now I know then...there is a difference. Nice to know though that all the raves about the 8000 are based in fact and not ...wishful thinking...or company hype. I havent had mine long enough to really learn it yet and maybe I made a mistake in getting 2 new different detectors before I had really earned the first. But thats my problem I guess. Whats done is done. So I have the 8000 and the new Safari. Only had the 8000 a couple of weeks and just got the Safari and havent taken it out yet.
 
Yeah, the likeness to the F5 would have been far more accurate.
I read through everybodies posts then went over to utube and watch a number of clips on these machine and it has given me a much better understanding of them. The Omega 8000 has a clear edge over the F5. The biggest difference that I noticed, was how deadly the pinpoint feature is on the 8000. It would be interesting to be able to get my hands on one and play around with it just to see how much potential information that can be gleaned out of it. The ergonomics and the fact that you only use 1 9volt battery is a big bonus. 9 volt batteries in in Australia are an average of $5 each! You you get them for $4.50 and I have seen the as high as $6.50. The only thing that it seems to lack over the F70, is the tone modulation, which to me is a very useful feature, as I'll often hunt for newly dropped coins from flea markets and special events. It makes picking these targets a cinch. The F70's pinpoint feature doesn't seem to be as effective as the 8000's though. It'd be interesting to see how it behaved when you detune the pinpoint though. That could bring up some interesting results.
Thanks again for the great feedback.
Mick Evans.
 
Mick,
Coiltek are the importers and distributers for First Texas (ie. Fisher and Tekentics). I bought my Omega in January, this year. First coin it found was a sixpence....I was pretty happy with that. It has 4 tone combinations in disc. mode, and freshly dropped coins are a cinch. I'm very happy with mine, and it's doing very well. Still using all my other detectors of course, but the Omega has filled a gap in the range. As I said, I'm very happy with mine.
 
Thanks Furious.
I was talking to Treasure Enterprises on Friday. He's winding up operations in a couple of months, but did mention that there would be a new Fisher importer to Oz but as he still has stock, I'm not surprised that he wouldn't let on who it would be.(I very nearly ordered the F70, but I was concerned about how the warrenty would be treated as a different company would have to deal with it.) I started looking into the Teknetics brand as I don't know much about them.
How do you go on sorting screw caps from the goldies?
Thanks Mick Evans.
 
The goldies are specific, 77 for $2, 78 or 79 for $1....if you stick to that you dont get many screw caps...however, being a bloke, I cant help straying and check out other numbers in theregion in case it is silver.
 
Thanks.
It seems to be a feature of these First Texas machines. the numbers seem to be consistent on the shallow stuff. I can't help myself but be curious about extra ways of sorting targets out. Your right of course; as three pence's and half silver six pence's hit around the same area, you wouldn't want to leave them behind. Mind you, they are very small coins, so will give more clues to separate themselves from screw caps.
I think I'll get myself the F70 this time round. The audio modulation and delta pitch seems to be too good to pass up. I tried to find info on Coilteks website, but they don't have the details and prices up yet, so I'll have to ring them in a week. Work is going to keep me too busy to ring before then.
Thanks again.
Mick Evans.
 
1st Texas Spokesman told me today that my Bounty Hunter Platinum detector is the same as the Teknetics Omega 8000 with only superficial
differences. If I want extra coils for my Bounty Hunter Platinum, I have to buy the Teknetics brand coils.
 
If I have just bought a repacked Bounty Hunter in this omega 8000, then I am history. I didnt pay a premium price for THIS detector, then to find out that a Bounty Hunter is the same thing? Ok, well, looks like I just decided what I wanted to do. Nothing against you guys that own a Bounty Hunter, but if I wanted one, thats what I would have bought. And if First Texas is doing that kind of crap then they have lost my business.
 
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