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Is the Omega 8000 a repackaged Fisher F70?

Thisoldgoldchaser said:
If I have just bought a repacked Bounty Hunter in this omega 8000, then I am history. I didn't pay a premium price for THIS detector, then to find out that a Bounty Hunter is the same thing? Ok, well, looks like I just decided what I wanted to do. Nothing against you guys that own a Bounty Hunter, but if I wanted one, thats what I would have bought. And if First Texas is doing that kind of crap then they have lost my business.

I could be way off here, but to my understanding from what i have read and seen, the Bounty hunter platinum seems to be kind of in between the Delta 4000 and Gamma 6000, It appears to be very similar if not the same to the 6000. I have read other posts from the same person who caused you concern and i am sure he will disagree. Of course i could be wrong, but I usually try and do some research before i take someones word. I love the Omega and it continues to impress me. It is a great value for the money, and it can certainly hang with it's bigger brother and cousin in most instances. Just my two pull tabs worth. BTW, pulled my oldest coin with the omega the other day 1889 V nickel in heavy mineralized clay with a lot of iron...with the stock 10" coil. HH
 
Gatorfan said:
Thisoldgoldchaser said:
If I have just bought a repacked Bounty Hunter in this omega 8000, then I am history. I didn't pay a premium price for THIS detector, then to find out that a Bounty Hunter is the same thing? Ok, well, looks like I just decided what I wanted to do. Nothing against you guys that own a Bounty Hunter, but if I wanted one, thats what I would have bought. And if First Texas is doing that kind of crap then they have lost my business.

I could be way off here, but to my understanding from what i have read and seen, the Bounty hunter platinum seems to be kind of in between the Delta 4000 and Gamma 6000, It appears to be very similar if not the same to the 6000. I have read other posts from the same person who caused you concern and i am sure he will disagree. Of course i could be wrong, but I usually try and do some research before i take someones word. I love the Omega and it continues to impress me. It is a great value for the money, and it can certainly hang with it's bigger brother and cousin in most instances. Just my two pull tabs worth. BTW, pulled my oldest coin with the omega the other day 1889 V nickel in heavy mineralized clay with a lot of iron...with the stock 10" coil. HH

And just for me heres what i came up with, lol... Bounty hunter platinum, Same body as Alpha 2000, Same motor as Gamma 6000, and same chassis as Omega 8000. All operating at 7.8 kHz. So similar yes same, not quite. Besides, there's just something about knobs on the omega the makes me happy. It's late, i think i will give it a rest for now. :goodnight:
 
Well guys, I gave it a nights sleep on it and I gotta say...i did jump the gun a bit. I claim being tired. I had spent a very enjoyable afternoon digging out with the Safari and then when I was readying the forum ran across that guy's post about them being the same. I normally do take statements like that with a BIG grain of salt and check them out myself. I guess it was that I had been having some doubts myself and it fit in with those doubts because of other things that have been said. AND I was really tired. :thumbdown:

So I get to claim one time of being tired, negative and dumb.......ALL at the same time. Gotten more heat on that one little rant........<sheese>:surprised::surrender:
 
Similar rod and physical appearance except the Omega 8000 comes withe the 10" Elliptical concentric coil and the Platinum has the round 8" concentric coil. I prefer the 10" elliptical on my Omega.

Battery Display: BH Platinum has a battery-shaped object with 2 segments and a full battery shows 2 filled segments i the battery, then 1 segment when you get to 6.2 V and it flashes when you drop below 6.2 V. I definitely prefer my Omega's 4 bar segments for reporting battery condition as it will give me a good "heads-up" of how I stand rather than just a short "Uh-Oh!" when it is almost dead.

Controls & Adjustments: It's easy to see that the Teknetics Omega 8000 provides more function than the BH Platinum, too. The Platinum is All Push-Button (6), and 1 of those simply powers the detector On or Off. The Omega 8000 uses Knobs (2) and Touch-Pads (7) to make adjustments and a mode change.

Sensitivity: With the BH Platinum you press one (1) button to turn the detector 'On' and it starts up in the motion Discriminate mode at 70% of maximum Sensitivity. To increase or decrease the Sensitivity you have to press the Top-Left Push-Button to access the Sensitivity function, then press the Left (-) or Right (+) Push-Button to decrease or Increase the Sensitivity setting. The available settings are 4 (lowest) to 10 (highest).

With the Omega you simply Turn the Sensitivity Knob to power-up the detector and adjust it to a preferred and functional level, and the numeric read-out ranges from 0 to 99. Much faster and easier to adjust the Omega, with more functionality in the adjustment range.

Discriminate Level and Notch Discrimination: With the BH Platinum you Press the Top-Left Push-Button to scroll through the left-side functions to Disc. Level, then use the Left (-) or Right (+) Push-Buttons to accept or reject one of the 8 'categories. If you want to Notch Out or In a particular category, you press the Top-Left Push-Button and scroll down the menu of adjustments to Notch. Once there, you will use the Top-Left and Right Hand (+) Push-Buttons to works through the notching and accepting the available first 5 categories.

With the Omega,8000 you simply turn the Mode Selection Knob from he "clicked" All Metal (Auto-Tune) mode into the variable Discriminate mode. If you prefer to just use the variable Discriminate setting, you can increase it and visibly reject the same 5 'categories' as the BH Platinum, or benefit from the Fine0Tuning capability of the Omega's Discriminate circuitry read-out. In the lower-right it will display the variable rejection level starting with 1 (minimum setting) and increase from there. For example, while I generally hunt with it set o hear ALL target present with a setting on 1, when I get into a lot of annoying bassy Iron audio I can "fine-tune" the rejection up to somewhere from 10 to 20 which is only part way into the Iron 'category' of rejection.

I don't use Notch very often, but it's much faster to access with the Omega and you can quickly twist the Knob to reject the unwanted range of categories, then use the Notch Touch-Pad to select the category to Accept. If desired, you can accept all categories and quickly pick one of the 5 categories to reject by using the Notch Touch-Pad. The Omega's Discrimination and Notch rejection functions are certainly superior.

Tone selections in the Discriminate mode: With the BH Platinum you use the Top Left Push-Button to scroll through the menu and then the Left (-) and Right (+) Push-Buttons to select one of 4 Tone choices. These are not the same Tones and selection as the Omega. Similar,bot not. With the d4, for example, the BH Platinum signals a Bass tone for Iron, Low for Foil and Nickel, Medium for Pull Tabs, Screw Caps and Zinc Cents, then High Tone for Dimes and above. The Omega's d4 lumps Foil, P. Tabs., S. Caps and Zinc with the Low Tone and Nickels get the Medium Tone, and High for Dimes and above. I prefer the d4 to alert me to a potential Nickel. besides, the Omega's Tones are quickly accessed with a Tones Touch-Pad without multiple control changes.

We still haven't touched on two of the better differences I see between the BH Platinum and the Tek. Omega 8000 which has to do with Operating Modes and Mode selection as well as Ground Balance and Pinpointing. Here we go:

Operating Mode: The BH Platinum provides two models A motion-based Discriminate mode and a static[/i] All Metal mode. At turn-on the Platinum is in the Discriminate mode. You can NOT adjust the Ground Balance in the Discriminate mode. Thus, you need to press the Top Right Push-Button and scroll to All Metal. You then press the bottom-center Push-Button to activate Ground Grab. This Push-Button serves two purposes in the All Metal mode. A momentary press and release will restore the Threshold if it should 'drift' due to temperature change, or a dramatic change in mineralization. Also, you use it for the Ground Grab function in All Metal. To accomplish the Ground Grab the Platinum's instructions instruct you to hold the coil 1-2 feet off the ground and Press-and-Hold the Push-Button as you lower the coil toward the ground, to within 2 Inches. You hold the coil motionless for for about 3 seconds as a 2-digit number stabilizes in the center of the display, then release the Push-Button.

You are now ready to hunt in the All Metal mode that requires a manual retune as it is a 'static' operating mode. To return to the Discriminate mode you press the Top-Right Push-Button and scroll to Discriminate mode.

With the Tek. Omega your can turn the detector On or Off in either the All Metal or Discriminate mode simply based on the setting of the right-hand Mode Selection Knob. We've mentioned the variable Discriminate mode, but all you have to do is rotate the Knob counter-clockwise to the clicked Auto-Tune All Metal setting. Not a static function that calls for manual retuning, but an Auto-Tune All Metal mode.

The beauty of the Ground Grab function of the Omega 8000, for me at least, is that you can perform a Ground Grab ground balance at any time in either the All Metal or the motion Discriminate mode. Yes, it is recommended to adjust the GB in the auto-tune All Metal mode, but you can quickly press the Ground Grab Tough-Pad, in either mode, and bob the coil from about 6"-8" down to
 
Good post Monte. Very informative. And you are right, of course. I ended up downloading the manual for the Platinum early this morning and read through it. You can sure tell it was written for the total newbie in mind. Most of the other advanced detectors have a higher skill assumption in their manuals, I think, which is good in most respects.

Anyway, after I read the manual I pretty much figured out that I may have jumped the gun. I cant deny though that I wish 1st Texas used less cross hardware and such between the brands. Each brand should go their own way, technology wise without trading one piece of hardware from one brand detector to another. It would make for better customer relations and less moments like my little upset at the brand. I realize that sharing technology between the brands makes for less necessary research and repitition of effort but still. With alot of detectorists, BH has always had a reputation that wasnt/isnt the best. And it was deserved in the beginning, I feel, because of technology and quality issues. And despite all the company's efforts, that reputation never went away\

So now, with the 3 brands being under the same umbrella, they need to make sure that they keep the brands seperate, not only in technology and hardware but in the minds of consumers. And the more the company swaps technology and hardware and software from one brand to another, the more questions are going to emerge, especially with the reputation that BH has had. And right or wrong, deserved or not, BH does not have the best of reps in the minds of many detectorists.

My opinion, but I have used many brands of detectors over the years, and I still would not buy a BH, even though I had considered buying one of their Time Ranger models at one time, I decided not to.
 
MONTE THAT WAS A GREAT COMPARISON BETWEEN THE BOUNTY HUNTER PLATINUM AND THE TEKNETICS OMEGA 8000, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE CONSIDERING EITHER ONE.AS USUAL YOU WERE IN DEPTH ON ALL AREAS OF EACH MODEL PLUS IT PUTS TO REST THAT THE TWO MODELS ARE DIFF IN MANY AREAS NOT GOING TO SAY ONE IS BETTER THEN THE OTHER BUT IM THRILLED SO FAR EACH TIME I USE MY NEW OMEGA 8000 FOR THE EASE OF GROUND BALANCING AND THE LIGHT WEIGHT AND EASY SWING AND THE VERY SIMPLE USER FRIENDLY ADJUSTMENTS YOU CAN MAKE ON THE FRONT OF THE OMEGA 8000.iM EXCITED AND ANXIOUS TO GO OUT AGAIN A FEELING I HAVENT HAD FOR A WHILE NOW BUT THIS OMEGA 8000 IS EVERYTHING YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID IT WAS...HAVE A GREAT EVENING EVERYONE....MARKMAC
 
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