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Just A Thought.... Any input from you guys???

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Mark ( ohio )

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Now that ML has done away with the Sov GT and the SE Pro... Do you think they ( ML ) might do an enhancement to the Safari...ie; a Safari II or Gt model ?? I used a safari for a full hunting season 2-3 yrs ago and did really well with it.. although certain things about the detector I just didn't care for ( mainly the numeric Id system )..

What do you think??? Maybe a better version for 2013..

Mark ( ohio )
 
I think the question can be asked of all of us......what would you like to see in a newer improved model of the Safari?
Personally, I wish they would put a back light in it. Many times I find myself on a beach or in a park and the light is fading but my energy is still high. I want to continue on but have to pack up and leave feeling like I've left prematurely. I have tried hat and handheld light sources but none of them are satisfactory for me at least.
In conjunction with the back light for the display, I would like to see the area under the coil lit up. The light source would have to be all plastic so as not to interfere with the coil but would be of great worth to me in fading light scenarios.
I realise that battery capacity (exterior batteries or from the 8 AA's battery pack) would be an issue with both the back light and coil illumination but L.E.D. bulbs are a very low drain on battery power. Also, maybe a small and compact waist held battery pack might be an option?
Also, a stronger armrest. My plastic arm rest died a long time ago and I have Jerry-rigged mine out of a PVC pipe which works just fine. I would like to see them have an aluminium one and padded for comfort as standard.
I always use the numeric I.D. but only as just one of the indicators including the multi tones, to suggest what is under my coil.
I do not use the icon I.D. I have no use for the icons. They are totally inaccurate, misleading and frustrating especially for a newbie and I don't use them. Maybe some other form of icon system? although I don't have any suggestions at this time.
I am almost perfectly happy! with the Safari as it is but would be perfectly happy if the above improvements were installed as basic equipment from the factory! I wonder if M.L. would recall mine and retrofit it for free???? NOW I am dreaming!! LOL!
 
Not in the immediate future Mark. I rang up the Adelaide headquarters a few months ago about a replacement part for my Explorer and asked about when the X-Terra's were due to be updated. He said that between the mine detection detector and the new 3030, which on it's own cost them multiples of millions to develop, the R and D funds are a bit low at the moment. Given that the whole Minelab company was bought for $70 000 000. that's a very large chunk of their budget. Given time though, I'm sure that they will come out with something in the future. It's not a real big deal in a way when you think about it. Fundamentally, detectors haven't improved much over a last few years. So our current detectors will not fall behind in the detecting stakes till someone quantum jump idea uses a new way of seeing targets in the ground.At the moment they are stuck in a rut of still using basic transmit/receive coils and associated technologies. Think about the Sov. it's been around since 1988 or 89 and has only just been discontinued. It hasn't change much from the first model and it still out hunts most detectors despite its age.
Mick Evans.
 
I don't think most detectorists are looking for radical changes with the detectors and as Mick mentioned, the technology is not there yet to make that "quantum leap" just yet. Like I've said in my earlier post, we would be happy with just some refinements to an already fine (Safari) metal detector! Can I get an AMEN?!!!
 
Love the Safari since I have had it. I cant think of any improvements except maybe a wider arm strap. As far as the backlight I get around that now with a headlamp. lol
 
I think they could stand to shave a little of.the weight off. that tendinitis is a real you know what and I'm just saying if it was half the weight I would be detecting at least twice as much.
 
I would like to see them get rid of the Icons & add more discrimination points & would be nice to also know what the Sensitivity is when running in auto sens. I try to run without the Icons & manual sens because I feel that's 2 less things for the processor have to do & should help to speed it up.
 
Another irritating item on the Safari is instead of getting the usual [size=large]35[/size] on a penny, you'll occasionally get a [size=large]36[/size], sometimes a [size=large]37[/size] and to really confuse you, sometimes a [size=large]38??????:[/size]stars: I understand the different numbers come from different metal compositions including encrusted iron or different metal particles but I have always wondered a penny is a penny is a penny and they have never differed in size (at least for a few decades) so why the difference in numbers and whats more, a graduating higher tone almost fooling you that it's a Quarter coin that's under your coil? With a penny thats accumulated a lot of salts on a beach, this problem is more prevelant.
I may be answering my own question here but I decided to post the following to smooth over my (and other detectorist's) frustrations on this subject! and which might either shed light on this or make this question even more complicated!!!!
Penny metal compositions through the years:
1793-1796.....100% copper
1796-1857.....100% copper
1856-1864.......88% copper, 12% nickel
1864-1942.......95% copper, 5% tin & zinc
1943...............Zinc coated steel (also known as the steel cent)
1944-1946.......95% copper, 5% zinc
1946-1962.......95% copper, 5% tin & zinc
1962-1981.......95% copper, 5% zinc
1982................Varies, 95% copper, 5% zinc, or 97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper.
1983 to present...97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper (core: 99.2% zinc, 0.8% copper, pure copper plating.
In honor of the Lincoln cent's 100th anniversary special 2009 cents were minted for collectors in the same composition as the 1909 coins.

So.........................can we blame the guy's at the US Mint for fooling around with the metal make up of the humble cent? LOL:ranting:
 
Oh, I rambled on in the previous post and from the original question! sorry! I would like to see if the Safari programming could be tweaked to better identify a penny encrusted or clean conditions under the coil?
 
Yeah, I'd like to see how the auto sensitivity is doing. Dump the icons, of course too.

In addition to the 'penny drift. beinbg caused by salts/corrosion/etc, maybe orientation in the ground + any nearby targets could affect the reading....? (i have also witnessed what you are describing)
 
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