I bought this detector for my son to start using,Ive had all the biggest and best detectors thinking this would be a good starter detector for him ,i cant believe I'm starting to use the id edge more and more,discrimination is perfect I'm not digging the nails like i do with the others, it lets me know whats in the ground without having to guess,I'm starting to like it so much that i bought a wireless ear bud setup for it.and i don't think there is much loss on the depth it picks up everything in my test garden just as good as the ET and the V3I.i just had to let it out i think I'm a old fisher fan now!!