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Let's Talk About Depth

reddirtfisher

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:cool: Hello everyone, I was just reading the posts about the " V " hitting deep silver coins. I have been doing a LOT of watching depth tests, air tests, reviews, etc on YouTube. There are not that many videos bragging on Tesoros for depth. It seems that the most impressive were Minelabs, Fisher CZs, and Fisher 1266X. I probably shouldn't ask this but..." Do Tesoros go deep enough to find deep silver and gold?" Please understand that I am just recently ALL Tesoro and I have the 7 inch coil Compadre, Silver Sabre uMax, and the Golden uMax. Are these units really great on depth or just average? I read years ago about depth in the article by Jack Gifford in the MDI catalog . His advise about depth seemed reasonable enough but, wow, when I see some of those detectors on YouTube getting 18 inches on a silver dollar or 12 inches on a gold ring,...I am just flabergasted.. I know there are a lot of factors involved with depth. My deepest detectors in the past were a White's DFX, Classic IDX in all metal mode and a Fisher 1266 X with sensitivity cranked up. I would like to hear about some of your experiences about depth and air tests and please!!! help me quit thinking about this:rage:
 
In my exeperience of using Tesoros I have not found that they get alot of depth. This is okay for me, because I only have time to hunt schools and parks right now. With family and work and other repsonsibiities I cannot get out much. Where I live if you go into a park or school and start digging a plug and then piling out dirt like you see on some of those youtube videos where people are using a minelab or some other deep seeking detector it is lights out for you at any of the parks. I talked to a parks and rec worker recently and he said if he sees anyone in the parks with a shovel they are out. In my experience the Tesoros are amazing at pinpointing, so there is no need to dig a large plug and a large hole to find my target. I would think someone would not invite you back to their place to hunt if you start digging a big hole. so until I have time to hunt the woods and other places, Tesoro units get plenty of depth for what I need them for and have excellent seperation in trash. I also do not have very much time to hunt when i go out, so the affordability coupled with the quality of a Tesoro is a perfect fit for me. I have found silver coins with just my Compadre and they were not very deep. It is sometimes about location as well to find the silver. Good luck and HH
 
Photo is of me trying to reach a 2005 clad dime the Cointrax got at near 36 inches:happy:
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Disclaimer: The title, text and image in this post are consistent with some of the posts made on metal detecting forums and shown in video's on uTube, and like most of those posts and videos shouldn't be taken 100% literally.......
 
The vaquero and tejon and possibly now the outlaw are probably the deepest of the tesoro a right now. If you haven't yet, look up the video of the tesoro vaquero vs E-trac, it might surprise you
 
RDF,

Depth is the driving force in metal detector discussions, who cares if it goes to china or not. I want decent depth, but don't care to dig all that deep in somebodies yard. Most of my detectors will nab a dime sized target from about 7 to 8 inches deep if I'm paying attention, most of my finds are probably no deeper that 4 to 6 inches deep and that includes the stuff we are all after, mercs, barbers and seateds. I have a bunch of the MDI magazines and Jack Gifford mentions several times about depth, #1 is "Skill of the operator".
 
If the coil doesn't pass over it...doesn't matter if it's sitting on top.

Research finds the spot ...permission gets u in there and knowing how to use your tools is the last step.

Getting good at the first two is the key.

G
 
I would not feel "under" detected swinging a tesoro Vaquero. The key is to have it set up to your ground and type of hunting. Plus keep your coil FLAT!!!!!!
 
Hi Reddirtfisher,I believe JB probably answered your/our thoughts best. I too ,hear talk about Tesoros not being deep and hear stuff about silver dollars etc. From my experience with Tesoro,(Tejon as of late) a silver dollar at 18"" ain't so impressive the way I see it, and that is with a 5 lb machine with 15 knobs on it. We have some folks keen on Tejon that hit buttons at 15++ ".I can't hear it thunder but found one button(back only ) at a measured 10". Found a tiny girls shoe buckle at measured 10", and a heap of other buttons at 6-8",Found a cut in half 1/2 Real last year at probaly 6" with Tejon(9x8 con coil) so I would think JB to be right on with his way of looking at it. LOL, This old guy enjoys digging the shallower stuff as well as a deep one now and then,, and knowing my Tesoro is probably in truth a lot more near depth as any of those others makes it even more enjoyable.LOL, for rhe +$$ and weight of some of those deepies, I don't believe we will be hearing many shallow coin stories about them.HH, Charlie
 
I shouldn't have made the post above, but you're right in that's the way I look at depth claims. I've used a lot of the "super deep" detectors. have two now that go deeper than I care about digging, but my best and oldest coin finds have all been within the depth range of Tesoro detectors.
 
JB, I believe you did just fine with your post! You reminded most all of us what we are already aware of,or should be, and sometimes forget..It is good how we can jaw about all the different aspects of detecting and give our personal outlooks and experiences. I really enjoy the friendly interaction that is always going on between some of the folks .Good times to be had here, and it helps me look forward to the few hunts I get to make now when me and my digging buddies meet up for a hunt.LOL, and some of them are pretty good at "pulling a buddies leg"! HH, Charlie
 
A few years ago, I got a "dink" signal with a CZ-5 which turned out to be a tiny gold-plated ring at 8". I could have found it deeper, but turning up the sensitivity resulted in many false signals. I had the presence of mind to check it with my Silver umax in a/m mode before retrieving it and got a very weak signal that I would have overlooked. So the other detectors ARE deeper, BUT in my area I can't use the depth for all the iron trash and false ground signals. And, crazy of crazies, I got tired of digging zincers at 8"! As one poster said, location means a lot. Now here's the question I ask myself whenever I consider another detector: What does it take to find a coin 4" deep-the usual deepsest find in my area- and how deep can a coin sink in a couple of weeks? But for the guys who have found the older places, I'm envious!
 
As everyone knows, all machines are sold on depth claims, when disc at depth should be the major selling point. If everything below 5 inches sounds like iron, then great depth is useless. Because I don't dig every signal. I find that Tesoro machines are as good as any and better than most at getting decent depth with the discriminator set at what you want to reject. Most good machines, Tesoros included, will see a quarter at 8 inches in good ground, and generally the Tesoros won't reject it just because it's deep like some others will. Of course with a concentric coil, a quarter at 8 inches has to be scanned at the very center of the coil to be detected, due to the cone shaped detection field. I'd worry more about covering the ground more efficiently than the depth of the Tesoros. When I keep going back to the same small places and continue to make good finds I know there's a reason for it. I didn't bring a better detector. Some strange phenomenon did not push the coin higher in the ground. I just didn't sweep as efficiently as possible the first dozen times.
 
The Vaquero and Tejon can pretty much go as deep as a detector twice it's price if you know how to use them correctly. I don't mind digging more junk so having the discrimination turned down isn't an issue for me. If you have the discrimination turned up on a "V" to where your just cherry picking, then yea the depth won't be as great as it would be otherwise. Idk why people wouldn't take more advantage of the machines capabilities on depth if that's what their looking for.
 
JB(MS) said:
Photo is of me trying to reach a 2005 clad dime the Cointrax got at near 36 inches:happy:
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Disclaimer: The title, text and image in this post are consistent with some of the posts made on metal detecting forums and shown in video's on uTube, and like most of those posts and videos shouldn't be taken 100% literally.......

WOW! 36 inches on a clad dime. You must have some very mild ground to hunt. I can only get around 30 inches on a clad dime in wet ground with my Compadre.

I probably need to send it in to get it checked out and re-tuned. It's not getting to depth it use to.:)

tabman
 
Lol, Tabman, you talking just like all of my digging buddies! And oh yeah, you do need to get your Compadre retuned, cause it's sounding a little tired! LOL, HH, Charlie
 
JB(MS) said:
Photo is of me trying to reach a 2005 clad [size=large]dime the Cointrax got at near 36 inches[/size]:happy:
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Disclaimer: The title, text and image in this post are consistent with some of the posts made on metal detecting forums and shown in video's on uTube, and like most of those posts and videos shouldn't be taken 100% literally.......
I think something else is getting alittle deep JB :poke::laugh: Now tabman and 30" on his Compadre is more than likely the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth :biggrin:
 
I was poking fun at some of the completely unbelievable posts I've read and video's I've seen, but it does seem to get deeper every time a new detector is released:happy:. Example. A relative I hunt with has a detector that will barely detect a coin 8 inches deep, but he continually claims he finds coins well over a foot deep, even coins I've seen him dig that were no deeper than 5 inches. I think most estimate the depth of coin finds, or rather over estimate it. I did a few experiments that pretty much proved it, at least to me. I've dug coins that were five to six inches deep and measured the depth, then had hunting buddies estimate how deep it was. Almost without fail they would add three to four inches to the actual depth, and the relative I mentioned above often estimated double the depth.
 
:cool: I agree with JB. Most depth claims are probably exaggerated. My hunting buddies sound like a bunch of politicians most of the time :rofl: Seriously, though, the Fisher 1266X really DID have the extreme depth that people claimed it did. I saw it with my own eyes. And... , by the way, ...it was a sad day for me when Los Banos sold out.:cry: You guys are the best and I really enjoy readings these posts with my cup of Joe each morning before work. Take care, RDF :cool::tesoro::detecting:
 
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