Yup found ole #37 just a cheepo but hey a ring , Went to a school i hunted 1 time befor lots of can slaw 3 qts-- 5 dms - 18 pnnys also a little disney surfboard than goes on a chain a few washers , the hunt was about 2hrs i hunted until my back started hurting had the 6x8 SEF on point today , i hadent been hunting for a while so it was fun Z