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Ronstar

Well-known member
Ok!! Just ordered the F75 Ltd Special Edition with 11” and 5” coils and bonus googies. After a lengthy research I was down to the Nox 800 and F75. Watched hours of Youtube footage, pages of forum reviews from various forums and then sat down with a little whiskey on the rocks and my thoughts.
Fisher is made in the USA, Minelab mostly not.
Familiar with Fisher sounds and target numbers
Minelab would be new learning curve.
Minelab advantage is multi frequencies at once.
Fisher is fixed freq.
Minelab more programs suited to what I do.
Fisher adaptable and still covers what I do.
Minelab has problem with coil tabs breaking.
Fisher has solid coil attachment and adjustments.
Minelab having issues with charging being erratic.
Fisher just change batteries and keep going.
Minelab control box leaks, some have poor customer service and some getting rebuilt used boxes as replacements.
Fisher has basic 5star customer service review and not a lot of issues with quality control.
Minelab offers veterans 15% discount.
Fisher has on and off offers/incentives.
In the long run the F75 is the best fit for me to grow into. I am going to retrace my steps on that confounded ball field and find a couple of 24k gold rings and break even!!!! Lol
Just my Tuesday morning thoughts!!! Detector should be delivered Friday!!!
 

Mike Hillis

Active member
I love the F75 LTD. You can do everything with it but snorkel.
Good luck.
HH
Mike
 

REVIER

Well-known member
I started my Fisher journey with an F2, despite the bars bones nature and limited settings possible after many hundreds of hours I discovered there is a lot more going on under the surface of that simple thing and it's 4 tones...a !ot more.
I believe all detectors have two languages you can learn, the main one with tones, numbers and behavior that most can easily get a handle on fairly quickly with time spent learning but there is another one deeper down that has behaviour and repeatable indicators you will only notice and pick up on with quality time and a keen observational sense.
I believe I sucseeded with that process and excelled using mine to such a degree that many more F2's were sold because of the tips and insights I posted in so many forums and the pictures of my finds that grew exponentially as I got better at understanding what the F2 was telling me...really telling me past the normal surface information.
I always wondered if I could do so shockingly well with a basic entry level unit what could I accomplish with a tool further up the line in this same brand with more...more power, more sensitivity, more settings available that I could use to possibly learn to understand as well as I had learned that F2.
When the F70 at a fire sale price fell into my lap I was thrilled...I was aiming to eventually get the flagship F75 but this was more than good enough and I started on my journey to understand this one better than just well and at the deepest levels of understanding I could...no matter how long it took.
My only wish was I dearly hope all the behavior information I had in my head from well over 1000 hours standing behind the F2 would transfer over.
At first I was a little lost using the F70, there was so much more power at my disposal it took a bit to get it under control to my satisfaction.
Numbers and tones were very jumpy and it wasn't easy to get them to calm down, it was like going from a Chevy Chevette to a car that you would only use on a NASCAR track but I kept at it and it didn't take all that long to learn to maneuver that coil and get everything to calm down to a much more understandable playing field.
The good thing was despite my initial confusion from the second I turned it on I started finding great things right out of the box.
A tiny silver charm 6" deep in my first hunt even though I was moving that coil too fast like a hockey player moving down the ice on a fast break and on only my fourth hunt a stellar gold ring in the middle of massive trash at a picnic area in a park...an area I had scoured previously more times than I could count with a few other detectors and many coils.
Coins showed up in volume as I learned, nickels popped out of the ground like tabs thanks to the ability to change nickels to high tones and soon enough I came to the conclusion that even though I only knew a small percentage of what I eventually would come to learn and understand as the years progressed the reason I did so well from the first hunt was because the main and hidden language I spent so long learning on that F2 did transfer over so nothing was wasted.
It was a great start but there was so much more to learn because the F70 was so much more advanced not only in the almost unlimited possible setting combinations but also in its sheer ability to do things the F2 could never do, as capable as it was.
It took awhile to learn to go deep into regions I never explored before but it came, I learned to conquer heavy EMI filled sites even though I didn't have the advantage of DST, I took it into a site so infested with junk and iron others I know that hunted there just visited it once and never came back....and after several hunts I hit on some strange but repeatable behavior and conquered that site, too.
Moving back home to my mineralized SE. locations it took me three months to figure out how to hunt here successfully in the bad stuff but I did it, I never gave up on the F70 because I knew it had the ability to unlock the puzzle of my challenging dirt.
I just needed some time and experience to figure it out and it finally occurred to me to utilize what I learned hunting in massive iron sites because it might work here as well...and it did.

You have a fine tool to start your new journey, and plenty of experienced F75 users to help you as you progress.
The cool thing is many of us use wildly different ways and settings to hunt but all seem more than successful no matter how we enjoy doing it.
You will probably try a few ways but eventually you will find what works best...for you.
It will be a fun, eye opening and rewarding experience, trust me, if you keep at it and never quit learning.
Knowing all that I know now is great and I wouldn't give any of it up for anything but a small part of me is still a bit jealous because I know what I felt with each jaw dropping target I found as I advanced, each new thing I learned and grew to understand that added up to help me find more and more fantastic treasure as time went on.
7 years after I got the F70 I still have not stopped learning...it is a never ending process for me and one of the things I enjoy the most about this hobby.

Ask questions if you need, I know you will but this community will help you out to move you along that initial learning curve quicker than you might believe.
The Nox and all these other new detectors and platforms have moved to the forefront of these forums, understandable because new tech is cool tech and so many believe the best tools are the newest and greatest, but there are a whole lot of us out there that still spend plenty of time standing behind the old warhorses and find they still do the job much better than just good enough.
Way better than just good enough.
There is a reason these well used tools became legends.
You'll see.

Have fun...but you will come to know soon enough you will have very little choice about that when it comes to the journey you are about to embark on.

Good luck, keep learning...find plenty.
 
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Ronstar

Well-known member
Revier, the church you preach at, are there metal detectors propped up against a wooden hitchin rail outside instead of cars in a parking lot and with people of all walks of life standing around waiting for that Sunday morning sidewalk kind of sermon. You know, that smell of fried chicken kind of morning like Johnny and Kris sang about. I wanna be there.......holding my new F75 in swaddling clothes just waiting to be Baptized! Would you? Please??? I feel like the ballfield just parted and Moses is leading me to the gold rings.
 

tvr

Well-known member
When I got my F75 LTD (when they first came out), I found that I was digging less little gold pieces than I had been with the Tejon. With tabs coming in at a narrow number range and those round foil pull off seals from drink bottles coming in at a lower but pretty consistent number, I had stopped digging those numbers. I had to retrain myself to dig those numbers to get the gold finds back. It was the operator, not the detector that was excluding the gold.

Good luck with your new F75 Ltd SE!
 

REVIER

Well-known member
Revier, the church you preach at, are there metal detectors propped up against a wooden hitchin rail outside instead of cars in a parking lot and with people of all walks of life standing around waiting for that Sunday morning sidewalk kind of sermon. You know, that smell of fried chicken kind of morning like Johnny and Kris sang about. I wanna be there.......holding my new F75 in swaddling clothes just waiting to be Baptized! Would you? Please??? I feel like the ballfield just parted and Moses is leading me to the gold rings.
Ha!
I just love this hobby and the feelings they can produce when you find something great.
All the great things I have found, 3 dozen gold rings, tons of silver jewelry, lots of great coins including several silver halves and a Peace dollar among many...I can just look at them and I am transported right back there feeling what I felt like I had just dug them up 10 seconds ago.
Also the joy of using a detector and learning something new about it that you didn't know before and the thought that the new knowledge is now yours forever and can help you as long as you do this hobby.
"Aha moments" I call them...supreme satisfaction when that happens.
For me, anyway.

Just being supportive as so many have done for me in the past.
So many get a new detector and not everyone "gets it" from the beginning.
After about 10 years membership on more than one forum and reading thousands of posts I have seen several get frustrated and gave up using all kinds of detectors...way too early in most cases.
Just don't want that to happen to you.
I doubt it would but nice to know others got your back in the more confusing times.

Factory settings work fine on all Fishers, most settings work great no matter how you set them but as you learn to tweak them for the more challenging sites you may come across is where you will see your new one really shine like the superstar it is
You have some great preset programs onboard plus great control over most of the settings but my advice is don't get crazy at first, simple settings work and are easy to understand.

Be patient, pick a tone profile you think you will enjoy and learn the basic tones, behavior and the language at first...you won't miss much on factory settings so don't worry.
I started with 4H tones because it was similar to my F2 and familiar.
Eventually I tried them all and got pretty good with them all but I have my favorites.
DP is a trip.
2F tones is cool, I like 1, monotone, the most when in disc with disc at 5 or lower...that took a bit of time learning but do it enough and your brain learns to sort it all out because despite all the tech I believe your ears and brain are the best discriminator you got.
Do not even attempt to try this but my usual hunting settings in heavy iron or here in the mineralized mess I hunt in are all metal, sense maxed, thresh maxed, (which I can control but you don't have that option...but you don't really need it, either), most times with boost turned on.
This is an insane way to hunt, especially with no DST noise reduction, but after doing it for so long it has become second nature and extremely productive...again, for me.

You will find what you like and learn to set it up exactly the way you like it...in time.
Like I said I am a bit jealous because I know what is ahead of you.
Can't wait to see what you find.
 

jim tn

Well-known member
I've had a F 75 (now LTD) as my main swing since they first came out and it has found me literally thousands of old coins and jewelry items, not to mention, cans of curios and relics. I have untold hours with it and I continue to love it.
Some say its OLD TEC. And they would be right to some extent. None the less, it is still pretty darn good old tec.
I would still suggest hunting in the factory pre set modes your first few outings just to get a good feel for it. Although they aren't nearly as sparky today as the first version was and far less emi resistant, the pre sets are a nice gentle way of starting off.
Good luck. The 75 is a good and fun treasure seeker. HH jim tn
 

WV62

Well-known member
Congrats on the new F75LTD you love it.
Just a little advise, DON'T MESS NOTCHES until you get a good handle on the machine. First on your learn list is how to do a factory reset, this is a machine saver.
Good luck and post your questions, you will get help.

Ron in WV
 

Ronstar

Well-known member
My first two detectors I just blindly turned on and took them for a walk. The Bounty Hunter Lonestar was basic but it was my kindergarten experience. Once the bug had fully infested me I moved to the F5 and that was a night and day experience, I just discovered Jr High School. I will not part with that machine as my Sr year is approaching and I feel I’ve met graduation requirements so the F75 is that step towards a college degree.
I also correlate this like my first truck. It was a ‘56 Ford shortbox (I know, different forum but damn I wish I had the truck back now), no bells or whistles but she got me thru high school, hauled the band to gigs, and was my forever party hauler. Got married and old 56 was not a family car so had to get a better ride, no truck for a few years. Family grew and need for a truck returned. Im no mechanic but bought a used 2001 Dodge diesel. Had it now 16 years and basically it has motored on with no major problems or expenses. Now I can get a newer one, a me truck. Mine as I want it. All I wanted to upgrade to was power windows and locks and A/C (never had that) and after getting Mama’s car, this truck will have heated cloth seats. They come now with packages that make them Cowboy Cadillacs for sure.....
Funny how a stick with a box on it can make your thoughts return you to your happy youth times and first trucks but if you think of them all in the same way I think its a calming moment in an otherwise hectic time.......
 

miserman

Active member
The F75 has many features to experiment with. After trying them all you will settle into a couple modes that you use 90% of the time. When I first got mine in 2007 ,I carried the manual with me for reference but soon became accustomed with the different modes of operation. With your experience on the F5 this Fisher F75 will be a quick learning curve. My favorite mode of operation is the Motion All Metal with Sens around 86-89. I like the threshold set on +1 one click away from +2 (The threshold level changes slightly with each detent step on the Settings knob. Each number on the numeric readout corresponds to five of these small steps.) The "MOST" important thing to remember about Motion All Metal is that the Process # in Disc DOES carry over onto the All Metal side. Be sure to know what Process # you are in before changing over to All Metal. When the Boost Process is on in the Disc. side, the All Metal Mode will have the same characteristics of Boost such as having to slow your coil sweep speed and a slower response speed. I myself like hunting in All Metal with the DE process set on the Disc.side because I don't like the slower response speed from the Boost process. Read the last couple lines under BOOST PROCESS in the manual to better see what I mean. Looking forward to seeing what you like most about the F75 and any tips that you come across.
 

Ronstar

Well-known member
Well, she is here!! Put together and adjusted to fit me. Right off the bat the pole sections locking together is a jump forward and more finger room to attach the coil cable a huge leap forward. Put batteries in and by george it fired up.

Its too damn hot to go out (I know, you guys back east are gonna roll on the floor laughing when I say this) but 99 degrees and 20% humidity is not normal for here. We get this a few days a year and August coming and I function just fine at 20 degrees and 50% humidity so there!
Next week back in the 80s so early morning in low 60s and much nicer to go play.
 
You will love it. I cut my teeth on the F4. It was great. Found my first silver coin. Bought a F75 Ltd camo used. Also ran a gold bug. And some other off brand detectors. I always fell back on my F75. I learned the format on that machine and am still using it. Like jimtn said start out slow. Factory default and slowly work it hotter. I have found so much cool stuff. With the F75. I sent mine in twice and had all the up grades. It was a beast in the beginning but I rode it and calmed it down. You'll never look back once you fiquer it out. All I can say at this point...its like breaking a wild horse and both of you becoming best of friends!!!!
 

Confetrit

Well-known member
I've had a F 75 (now LTD) as my main swing since they first came out and it has found me literally thousands of old coins and jewelry items, not to mention, cans of curios and relics. I have untold hours with it and I continue to love it.
Some say its OLD TEC. And they would be right to some extent. None the less, it is still pretty darn good old tec.
I would still suggest hunting in the factory pre set modes your first few outings just to get a good feel for it. Although they aren't nearly as sparky today as the first version was and far less emi resistant, the pre sets are a nice gentle way of starting off.
Good luck. The 75 is a good and fun treasure seeker. HH jim tn
I have always thought of Old Tech' this way. Some say that the Fisher F75 and the Whites MXT are Old Tech, yet they are still around. There is a reason for this......They are quality detectors and they work. Plus, they are American Made. I hope someone will jump in and resurrect the Whites Co.
 

Confetrit

Well-known member
My first two detectors I just blindly turned on and took them for a walk. The Bounty Hunter Lonestar was basic but it was my kindergarten experience. Once the bug had fully infested me I moved to the F5 and that was a night and day experience, I just discovered Jr High School. I will not part with that machine as my Sr year is approaching and I feel I’ve met graduation requirements so the F75 is that step towards a college degree.
I also correlate this like my first truck. It was a ‘56 Ford shortbox (I know, different forum but damn I wish I had the truck back now), no bells or whistles but she got me thru high school, hauled the band to gigs, and was my forever party hauler. Got married and old 56 was not a family car so had to get a better ride, no truck for a few years. Family grew and need for a truck returned. Im no mechanic but bought a used 2001 Dodge diesel. Had it now 16 years and basically it has motored on with no major problems or expenses. Now I can get a newer one, a me truck. Mine as I want it. All I wanted to upgrade to was power windows and locks and A/C (never had that) and after getting Mama’s car, this truck will have heated cloth seats. They come now with packages that make them Cowboy Cadillacs for sure.....
Funny how a stick with a box on it can make your thoughts return you to your happy youth times and first trucks but if you think of them all in the same way I think its a calming moment in an otherwise hectic time.......
.......and this is Exactly what we all need.
 

Ronstar

Well-known member
Ok. Heat backed down so went outside and decided to take a short walk around the front yard. New way to ground balance, not hard. Everything seems pretty quiet, swing coil and started getting some chirps and beeps, not hard. Now I have been all over this yard learning first the Bounty Hunter Lonestar then the Fisher F5 and recovered some clad, some nail and screws from construction (‘8:geek:, old bailing wire, etc etc. I really felt area was pretty well cleaned out as always walked the lawn every time I changed settings etc.
I didn’t walk ten steps when the F75 hit solid dime 73-74, what? That must of been dropped when all the kids were home last year, area was where we took group photos. Ok, lets play with new pinpointer....... 8” WHAT? Moved on about 10’ and hit another solid 72-74 dime, this time 7”.
Ground is bone dry so didnt want to dig front yard. Went back got F5 and went to where I marked the two spots, nothing. Hmmmmm
More to follow once I can get out I will go back to a county park where I have found my first silver and most silver and see what happens. If in fact these are both silver dimes in my front yard then probably silver (150 yr old area) and I’ve never hit a dime that deep. Going to get interesting.....I will post whatever comes out of those two marked spots later.
 

tvr

Well-known member
First few hunts I had with the original F75LTD it was hitting deep dimes on edge in areas I had hit pretty hard with a few other detectors.
 

u2robert

Active member
My first detector was a White's coin master in 86
But when the Fisher CZ's came out in the early 90's
It Was On.
 
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