JJames1610 said:
On the f75 se, is 1, 1F, 1n considered a single tone, or monotone? Or just the 1 only.
Which brings me to my next question, if you are in a single tone only. How do you tell a good target from iron? In a single tone, all tones are supposed to sound the same, right. Or are you also looking at the vdi?
Yes, under most circumstances the VDI is important when using monotone although most times the sound of that tone still counts.
False tones do not sound exactly the same as real tones even in monotone when scanning targets but you need some experience hours in order to tell the difference.
OK, I had this wrong, here is Dankowski's findings in his words...
"Say; you have a silver dime and a non-oxidized nail in very close proximity (nearly touching) at a handful of inches deep. The two targets are close enough to each other.... and laying in such a fashion so as to give you a VDI ID of...say; '13' (a higher ID than what most nails will ID….. but still within the ‘iron’ ID range). Let's say your F-75 Discrimination is on a setting of '6'.
1. If you are in '1' tone (monotone).... the F-75 will give you a good audio response to the target….. regardless of what the VDI is indicating. Since you are in 1-tone (monotone) there is no “tone-ID” per-se. (((You will most probably recover the target))).
2. Now….. say the F-75 is in 2-tone (or 3, 3H, 4, 4H tone options etc.....). And NOW......... the F-75 will respond with a ‘tone’ audio response that most detectorists will NOT dig/recover. The F-75 will report a 'iron' tone (the lowest sounding audio tone). The non-ferrous silver target will most likely NOT be recovered....... even though most all nails will discriminate out at a Disc setting of '6'.
THIS IS BECAUSE; When 2-tone (or 3, 3H, 4, 4H etc.....) is selected = ANY target that results in a VDI ID reading of '15' or below....will report as a 'iron' LOW-tone. Most folks will NOT recover iron tones……. Especially in nail infested areas.
Conclusively:
In situations like this..... COMPLETELY ignore the VDI. Rotate your body around the target until you have the best/most clear audio report. ((( This is usually best performed in monotone ))). NOW...... and only NOW,,,,, you may look at the VDI,,,, but for a distant secondary data input. You should already know (at this point) that you will/will not recover this target."
Many use this monotone method with great success.
He does not talk about anything else here but 1 tone even though 1F was available at the time...1N was not even a thing back then.
I have found that listening to and using monotone vs. anything else like 1F or 2F with that modulation or any of the upper tone choices all the way up to DP, is a much better and much less mentally fatiguing way to do it...for me.
The sites I hunt are usually filled with signals to the extreme both bad and good, a veritable wall of jumping numbers and sound, especially in all metal or my disc set at 1 or 0, and I have learned to use monotone to make sense of it all with a lot of practice
and my primary tone choice when hunting in disc.
All that being said even though I use a form of of this low disc monotone method I don't really use the tone as my primary indicator at all and figured out a different way that has proven to work for me for me in many different sites and situations.
Especially when hunting in heavy iron the VDI for me is everything...what I see in the screen, blocks or ranges of repeatable higher numbers and how they behave, how many iron numbers show up and their frequency all are taken into account.
Even though I have learned to do this using that low disc and monotone I am even better at it using all metal and extremely pumped up gain and threshold settings...I came to call this my "Blast Through" method.
I suppose you can call all metal a form of monotone hunting but with added modulation.
Tom read my report about using this method on his forum and saw what I was able to do and find and said learning to do it this way so efficiently puts me in the top 2% of hunters in his opinion.
Heavy praise for sure but I don't know about that, just a different way I discovered that works well for me through some experimentation and close observation which I believe anyone can learn to do using the F75/F70/T2/Patriot platform detectors.
That is the great thing about these tools, many different ways to set them up and use them and all successful.
