up a lot for me. I can use my Compadre 5.75 now nowing that it is the one best for those naily places, and that they are all on the same par. That's good because I was wondering if maybe there were indeed different versions.I always follow your comments, and especially any on the 1650,because it really is from all indications an exeptional machine, and does have more than just a little bit more going for it than many of the older, and newer machines.This is pretty much proven to be and not just Hipe and BS. All the more reason we would like to see someone come up with that updated version. Hey, Your Coyote,sounds like a winner, and you would think some would be willing to help you with it. I still remember when I was a kid and all th autos were pretty much the same from year to year.No different choices of colors or this or that, and they all got you where you were going and back.Same is true now with detectors, and when a certain , though older model, will do you as good or even better job, and much cheaper than some newer and unproven detector,well, it is simply a "Duh Moment".I am like you Monte, and any additions I puf on the wall now will be one of the oldie and Goodie ones. Thanks again, Charlie