More Etrac Mush

[Ray-Mo.]

Have you tried open screen all metal ferous with 2 tones as I have had good success with hardly any false signals and very little nulling.I have been in some very trashy sites and it works for me just have to check the numbers if looking for coins but if relic hunting I would think you would dig any solid signals that are high or not low iron.When in a junky park I have also found that when I get a high tone if I switch to factory coin pattern I can get a better or more accurate digital number lock even when next to iron.I did dig a nail that acted like a coin in every way,it was 6" deep and was strait up and down with the head up.It was about a 12 penny size nail and quite rusty.I to miss that nice high flute sound in ferrous that was better than any digital numbers.

 

[Andy Sabisch]

The internal software is ENTIRELY different than on the Explorers - all of them from the XS to the current one. The options that you are asking to have kept were not an option on the E-Trac . . . . . . as a number of people have posted, the E-Trac is NOT an Explorer despite the same color, coil and both starting with the letter "E".

If you think back to the 1st Explorer, it took a while before we figured out how to get it to do what we wanted it to and then when new units came out, there was still some time involved in tweaking the new one to do what we were comfortable with.

It will be interesting to see what people start posting in terms of finds and settings after a month or two have gone by. There seem to be a lot of "2 day decisions" being posted with negative comparisons made with the Explorer . . . . . the same people that made boxes of great finds with the Explorer which did not come overnight when first starting out with the Explorer.

Andy Sabisch

 

[Jim upstate NY]

and got lots of high toned falses.. maybe its my ground here.. did you try multi tone in ferrous? its odd.. only two tones and just the iron growl and another low but slightly higher tone or maybe they swapped multi and two tones in mine

 

[Ray-Mo.]

You posted (you can not hunt in relic mode in ferrous with 4 tones or 2 tones
reason for above you will hear high tone falsing all over the place )
And I asked if you tried wide open screen all metal with 2 tones compared to relic mode with 2 tones.And yes the high tone in ferous 2 tone mode is just a little higher on mine as well,Ray.

 

[bfodnes]

Jim

If everything but ferrous hits in the 11-14 ferrous then you will only hear two tones. not much difference between them even in multi is there,, 11-14 ferrous tones ?

Guess you will really hear a morgan then as a third tone, if you ever really missed out on it...............

 

[digitrich]

Already took out most of the surface stuff with small coils and my SE

 

[digitrich]

Andy, I am one of those people who did not have fantastic results with my Explorer at first, and then I read your book and tried using patterns and discrimination and afterward honestly thought my machine was a piece of junk. It was only when I learned to hunt with little or no discrimination that I tapped into the incredible depth and ID'ing powers of my machine and then yes, I created boxes and boxes of incredible finds that I am very proud of. Now I find myself in the exact same spot with this ETrac in that, I am not seeing any appreciable depth from it with auto sens and heavy discrimination, and in turning down the discrimination, basically then turning off the high trash density setting, I am seeing poor results compared to my SE's, as the Etrac isn't getting as much depth as my SE and I am not seeing much better target separation even with the faster recovery. I hate to compare my ETrac and my SE but didn't the add say that this machine was more stable allowing for better depth and all that????? Oh, and I wasn't quoting the manual earlier with that beach thing, I was actually quoting your previous post.

 

[aliensr]

n/t

 

[Rigit]

I think you must have a faulty machine as I am getting good results on deep targets, I found a Spindle Whorl today at eleven Inches and pre decimal half pennies at seven. I can't say its any deeper than my old Explorer XS just much more stable.

Hope you get it sorted

Andy, I am one of those people who did not have fantastic results with my Explorer at first, and then I read your book and tried using patterns and discrimination and afterward honestly thought my machine was a piece of junk. It was only when I learned to hunt with little or no discrimination that I tapped into the incredible depth and ID'ing powers of my machine and then yes, I created boxes and boxes of incredible finds that I am very proud of. Now I find myself in the exact same spot with this ETrac in that, I am not seeing any appreciable depth from it with auto sens and heavy discrimination, and in turning down the discrimination, basically then turning off the high trash density setting, I am seeing poor results compared to my SE's, as the Etrac isn't getting as much depth as my SE and I am not seeing much better target separation even with the faster recovery. I hate to compare my ETrac and my SE but didn't the add say that this machine was more stable allowing for better depth and all that????? Oh, and I wasn't quoting the manual earlier with that beach thing, I was actually quoting your previous post.

 

[digitrich]

I am going to bury some coins at 6-10 inches tonight and see what's what, something just seems wrong with this and maybe chasing targets I know exist with it might show something of what's going on. At first, last week I thought it was a lack of moisture, but we had 1 and half straight days of continuous rains recently, just steady non stop drizzling, so it has soaked the soil pretty good. I should be seeing better results.

 

[Jeb NWR]

When i read some of these threads it makes me Laugh.
Some of you guys have had the E Trac 5 minutes and your complaining you can`t work the E Trac out ,or you think you want to try a different coil on it to try to understand it .
Of course your having difficulties, is a brand new detector with different working to the Explorer.
Forget the Explorer, and how it worked, get it totally out of your mind and start again in your approach to using the E trac ,otherwise your mind will be in conflict all the time.
Some of your are talking about maybe you`ve made a mistake and will get rid of it because you can`t use it properly in 5 minutes. Laughable!
Any detector will take months and months to learn of this calibre. Its not a detector you will pick up and be able to use properly within a few days. Its going to take a long time to suss out for the average guy. Please try not to be so negative and dishearten people before its been properly learned. Give it a fair chance guys for you to understand it .Rome wasn`t built in a day you know.

 

[Rigit]

The truth is now starting to surface, this machine is so much fun and has already shown us just a little of what it is capable of, the finds will improve with time, it does sound like its taking a little longer to figure out in the US but I think that's mainly because your sites tend to have a lot more trash than ours in the UK, I was out for five hours on Sunday and dug no iron at all and only one ring pull and that was using ferrous tones and checking the position of the signal with pinpoint if the tone was to one side then it was probably a false signal, when I did find a good target the tone was sharp clean and repeatable and yes the ID was FE 11-12 or 13 and to me that makes it much easier than trying to remember or the different FE positions on the SE.

Keep spreading the word Jeb