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Moving target
- Thread starter 54bogger
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Tesoro's, in general, perform quite well and Pinpointing with a conventional Threshold-based Pinpoint mode is a snap.54bogger said:
The Vaquero is one of the Tesoro models I favor and I know fully well that Pinpointing usually isn't a problem.
The 8X11 RSD Double-D coil is another issue to learn and deal with. I very seldom muse a larger-size search coil because I most often hunt trashier areas. And when I do opt for something bigger than a small to mid-sized coil, I prefer a round shape, I have never cared for any of the 7X11 , 8X11 and similar-size elliptical coils regardless of what type of internal winding they use. Not only is the coil a larger size, but the Double-D configuration can also make Pinpointing a little more difficult until someone learns and masters the technique with those types of search coils.
You didn't clarify what type of hunting you were ding or the type of targets that keep "moving" on you during recovery. So, if I may, let me presume you might be Coin Hunting and your intended target is a typical round-shaped coin of a good non-ferrous metal. As a rule, IF the located target is a good coin, and IF it is laying in a flat-to-the-coil orientation, and IF there is no nearby masking target, and IF the target is at least 1½" away from the search coil so as not to be too close to create an overload of the EMF ... then you should usually be able to Pinpoint the target such that it will be located almost directly below the center axis of the search coil.
And if that is the case, then what constitutes a perceived "Moving Target"? Why did it seem to be there one moment and gone the next? Easy ....
1.. The Pinpointing skills still need some practice and improvement.
2 The object was odd-shaped which can make Pinpointing difficult.
3.. The target got mixed around in the recovery process and is a little 'off-position' from where it was initially.
4.. If it was a coin-shaped target it could have been moved so as to be on a canted angle or worse yet, 'on edge' or at a 90° angle which will definitely alter the response and ability to isolate [size=small](Pinpoint)[/size] it properly.
If you are new to this great sport I would encourage you to do three things:
• Get out detecting as often and for as long as you can.
• Practice Pinpointing a lot.
• Consider going to a smaller-size search coil, especially if Coin or Relic Hunting which often puts you into a trashier environment. My preference with the Vaquero, and my other Tesoro's, is the thin-profile 6" Concentric coil.
I hope this helps.
Monte
Sorry I left out what I was hunting, civil war relics in South Carolina is what I hunt. Your right about me needing to hone my pinpointing skills, I just wanted to be sure that I wasn't
overlooking something since this is new to me. As for the search coils I also have a 5.75 concentric, 8in concentric, and a 10x12 wide scan.
Thanks for your help.
overlooking something since this is new to me. As for the search coils I also have a 5.75 concentric, 8in concentric, and a 10x12 wide scan.
Thanks for your help.
Piedmontartifacts
Active member
This has happened to me too. Now I swing over the target from two angles before and most times instead of using the pinpoint feature.
Monte's advice is spot on, as usual.
Couple of things you might try with the 11 x 8 widescan (if you keep using it a lot and don't go to something like the 8 inch concentric) are:
1) Try seeing if it pinpoints more accurately at the tip or heal where the coil windings cross. Sometimes that helps. I've had a couple of widescan (DD) coils pinpoint well in the center, but frequently have been better using tip or heal where the coils cross.
2) Circle around the target sweeping it to see where the target pinpoints. Or at least, pinpoint the target, then turn 90 degrees to the target and pinpoint again to see if it is in the same location.
With practice and a little experimentation with the set up you have, you will learn what works best.
Couple of things you might try with the 11 x 8 widescan (if you keep using it a lot and don't go to something like the 8 inch concentric) are:
1) Try seeing if it pinpoints more accurately at the tip or heal where the coil windings cross. Sometimes that helps. I've had a couple of widescan (DD) coils pinpoint well in the center, but frequently have been better using tip or heal where the coils cross.
2) Circle around the target sweeping it to see where the target pinpoints. Or at least, pinpoint the target, then turn 90 degrees to the target and pinpoint again to see if it is in the same location.
With practice and a little experimentation with the set up you have, you will learn what works best.
fwcrawford
Well-known member
I have a Vaquero also.. great detector!!
Although I don't have the large widescan coils for my detector, I do have some larger widescan coils for some other machines that I use.
In addition to what others have posted, next time you get over a target, try raising the coil some while you swing it back and forth.. this makes the signal smaller and the pinpoint will be more precise.
I never use the pinpoint feature on any of my detectors, but I swing from two different directions and usually have not problem determining where the target is.
You'll get the hang of it.
One other thing, I'm not sure if the coil you have does this, but I have some coils that will give a double beep like there are two targets close together when the target is very close to the surface.
Not likely to be the case when searching for civil war relics, but thought it may be worth mentioning.
I like this feature when coin shooting, because it is a great indicator that the coin or whatever it is almost on top of the ground.
You might want to try this to see if your coil reacts like this and if it does, make a mental note of it.
Good luck!
Although I don't have the large widescan coils for my detector, I do have some larger widescan coils for some other machines that I use.
In addition to what others have posted, next time you get over a target, try raising the coil some while you swing it back and forth.. this makes the signal smaller and the pinpoint will be more precise.
I never use the pinpoint feature on any of my detectors, but I swing from two different directions and usually have not problem determining where the target is.
You'll get the hang of it.
One other thing, I'm not sure if the coil you have does this, but I have some coils that will give a double beep like there are two targets close together when the target is very close to the surface.
Not likely to be the case when searching for civil war relics, but thought it may be worth mentioning.
I like this feature when coin shooting, because it is a great indicator that the coin or whatever it is almost on top of the ground.
You might want to try this to see if your coil reacts like this and if it does, make a mental note of it.
Good luck!
Stoof-tabsallday
Well-known member
My go to with DD is to pinpoint off the tip of the coil. I use this practice on all my DDs from other companies too.