multi tone question

[bruce01364]

Seems a majority of people use multi tones. I have trouble distinguishing targets with multi tone/conduct. Many junk targets give a high or mid tone and I'm constantly looking at my screen. Guess I'm too lazy to learn all the sounds so use 2 tone ferrous with minimal disk. I still have to look at the screen but less often. I don't think there are any U.S. coins that I will miss with 2 tone but wondering if I am missing any other good targets by ignoring the lower half of the conduct scale. Like a GW button or other valuable item. I believe multi helps identify a target better but it takes awhile to learn all the various warbles and chirps and would have to experiment with variability and limit settings. Again, call me lazy but detecting time is usually limited. Am I ok using 2 or even 4 tones or should should I really take the time to learn the multi tones?

 

[Barry NY]

I have been using FE 2 tones (thanks GAZ) for my last few sessions including yesterday where I picked up 2 CT coppers ca. 1786-1788 and a nice deco button same era.
I don't understand your question - most everything that could be valuable hits on or near the 12 FE line on the E-Trac. Running in 2 tone FE you are hearing either a low or high tone. Low tones are iron which you will walk past and any repeatable high tones (which will be FE 17 or lower I believe) you should be digging.
You won't miss hitting anything within the full CO range. I do pass by those FE12 / CO3 signals which all turn out to be some sort of foil.

 

[HaroldILL.]

I am probaaly one of the few guy's on this and other forum's who only use's four tone conductive. I got so use to four tone's with my fisher CZ's that it was hard for me to get use to multi tone's. I know multi seem's to be the way to go, but my ear's just can't get use to it! That's one of the thing's that drew me to the E-trac was the four tone option. I had tryed freind's explorer's in the past, but did not like the multi flutey tone's.Even with four tone's I got 123 silver coin's last year. It's not the 300+ silver some guy's get,but for me that is a good year!

 

[bruce01364]

Sorry Barry, should have said I was wondering about any valuable targets in the lower FERROUS tones. My understanding is iron was 27-35 which would mean 18-26 in two tone could be something other than iron. I didn't mean this to be a two part question but that's how it came out. My main question is... I was wondering if it is necessary to use multi tone to get the most out of the etrac or is it mainly for better ID of targets? Comments on either question are appreciated.

Don't think I could run four tone conductive Harrold (too many high tones for me) but it's working for you. I've never found that much silver in a year.

 

[Barry NY]

Bruce - since using the FE 2 tone with a wide open screen (except for some disc on the FE 1 and 2 line) I feel that the E-Trac is responding to targets very quickly as there is virtually no nulling which means the unit will process good signals that much faster. Now, to clarify, I am using this setup for plowed fields and most likely will use for the beach too where you have a dig anything good mentality.

For home sites, parks, schools and grass fields (where I haven't used this format yet) I think a 4 tone FE setup might meet your needs better. This way you can eliminate only the lowest of the four tones and decision on what to dig from the screen info for any of the other 3 higher tones...then you basically won't miss anything..

Andy Sabitch modified coin program also has shown good results in the above locations too.

 

[Gaz]

Hi Bruce.

......again, there are two schools of thought here as it appears to me.
This has been discussed on another thread but I'll re-cap mate. One school of thought is that depending if they use Conduct sounds and multi tones etc, people say, "Oh I dug a coin that was FE27 on my ETrac." My personal view is that they think they have. The actual target was still FE12 but I suspect that some ferrous object was pulling the FE number down and 'blending' the target. By that, I mean an FE12 and an FE35 might 'blend' and give FE27......get it??
Now you can either set your machine up to dig these higher FE numbers but you do get an ear bashing and dig loads.

My school of thought and the way I hunt is to speed up the ETrac as fast as it'll go and try to stop the targets blending giving you a distinct high tone and low tone very close together in these cases.
I love 2 tone Ferrous sounds, always have, always will. With my setup, the high tone going down to FE17 is way way forgiving enough to dig high and ignore lows.
The targets just pop out.

If you are gonna ask how to speed up the ETrac, I'll tell you but I emphasis it's my view.....other setups are available!!

Turn Recovery Deep Off (This removes extra filtering and processing time amplifying signals)
Turn Recovery Fast On (This removes more filtering that stabilises target ID numbers but you don't need 'em)
Turn up your Volume Gain to at least 24 or above. (This will amplify fainter deep signals without loss of speed)
Have an open screen but black out your FE01 line horizontally. (This will quieten down the wrap around iron falsing)
By not discriminating out iron and listening to it, you get no nulling and thus no recovery speed loss.
Turn up your sensistivity as high as you can keeping the ETrac as stable as you can handle.
Dig the high tones, ignore the low tones.
Check all signals at two way 90 degree angles. Even if you get a mixed high/low tone two way signal, dig it. (When over these targets, give the coil a little small wiggle to separate the tones)

Gaz.