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My Battery is Discharging Rapidly

Tony N (Michigan)

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My rechargeable battery packs (the one that you stick your line into to recharge it) are losing power after only about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes.

After the first one went dead I put in the other one and the detector didn't come on at all. I took out the pack, put it back in and it finally turned back on.

Anybody got a clue as to what is going on? It is my trusty ole Explorer XS.
 
1) Bad Battery "CELL".
or
2) Battery Contacts Shorting to ground or something. Look inside the battery compartment and check to see if the contacts look dirty or damaged.
 
Or 3) since you are having trouble with both of your packs, make sure they are charging in the first place. If you have access to a DMM (Digital Multi Meter) plug your charger into power, then check the 2 conductors on the plug that attaches to your battery pack. I have the SE Pro, and my charger model # is 110151 it says output 15VDC but I just measured it for grins, and under no load it is showing 20.1VDC center positive. I am sure they have some sort of thermal shutdown, or just a fuse, and maybe that is your problem. Check the cheap part first, a charger is way cheaper than 2 rechargable packs!! If I can be of further assistance PM me. HH Joe
 
Thanks Joe and John,
I'll see what I can find.

Let's just say the both battery packs are good and the contacts down in the bottom of the battery holder need cleaning. How would you get way down there to clean them and with what?
 
Go to wally world and get one of those long kids pencils, the fat ones. Use the eraser end dipped in alcohol, the higher % the better. If those aren't long enough you need to find a way to slightly abrade the contacts with the eraser. HH Joe
 
You may have developed a "memory" in your rechargeable pack. Even though modern rechargable battery technology is supposed to have solved the "memory" problem of yesteryear's nicads, it is still there to some degree. It works like this: If you hunt for 45 min. to 1 hr, then go home and throw your pack on the charger before it was fully discharged, and do that time after time after time, always recharging it after 45 min. to 1 hr, then eventually, your pack developes a "memory" to be fully discharged at 45 min. to 1 hr. That's why it's best to use them till their all the way empty, before charging them. Even if that means having a spare pack in your apron to switch to in the field. I know it's hard to know you're going out with a 1/4 charged pack. The temptation to "give it a boost" is strong. But eventually you'll only shorten the batteries life, if you don't let them drain out all the way.

Also, a lot of nicad rechargeable packs have instructions to "charge after each use" (like walk-around phones, for instance). So some people will beg to differ with my advice, and say that the instructions don't say anything about that, and that they say to keep returning to the charging cradle. All I can say to that is, I bet it's so they can keep selling you lots of recharge packs! I ignore those instructions, and run them all the way down before charging. I get years and years off packs, even with constant use by doing this.
 
Hi - Did both of your rechargeable packs go bad at the same time? Does the unit power up properly with the battery pack that you insert actual batteries into?
 
Erik in NJ said:
Hi - Did both of your rechargeable packs go bad at the same time? Does the unit power up properly with the battery pack that you insert actual batteries into?

Yes, Erik. Both rechargeable packs too about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes to fully discharge.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last question. Do you mean do I put rechargeable batteries into one of the empty battery holders and then put that battery pack into the detector? I was not using one of those empty plastic holders that one puts rechargeable batteries or alkaline batteries into.

I find that the detector has been resetting itself and that after putting in a recharged pack I have to redo my settings.
 
I must be doing something right because the one pack came with the original machine around 1999 and the other came with a new Explorer SE one year ago. What I will do is see how well they work in the SE and report back.
 
Thanks. The springs at the bottom look copperish color and don't look like they have anything built up on them. I'll see what I can do.

Is it possible a wire wiggles lose in the main brain the the detector causing a short?
 
Hi Tony, Sorry for the confusion - if you use the pack that you can put 8 batteries into - does the unit work correctly? If not then the contacts inside the control box may be dirty. I've cleaned the battery pack contacts with a little Scotch-Brite and a dowel that fits in the recessed contact area (the fat end of a chop stick seems to fit OK).
 
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