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My Minelab died....... any suggestions?

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I had been hunting a site that was near an old settlement in Rockland Cnty NY. I had my detector ( expl 1) die on me. Batteries seem ok, i reset it back to factory specs, i get a tone with heavy background noise. I put a quarter on the ground, sweep over it and get nothing but bad background noise. You know the kind, if you use sensitivity 32, iron -16, ferrous, and gain at 8 running over a heavy iron area. I flipped the detector over so that the loop is up in the air ( no iron/ground up there) and when i pass the quarter over the loop, i get the same mixed tone as in high iron. Not even a steady beep indicating a coin.
Well, i lowered the sensitivity to 18 and turned the iron mask off, left it on ferrous, set the gain at 6 and tried again, still nothing. I thought that if i brought it back to factory specs, i'd at least get a steady tone, and id on the quarter going back forth, but nothing but random like tone id's everywhere.
I pulled off the loop, found allot of dirt underneath the loop cover, removed it, restarted the machine and still complete randomness without a quarter sounding off when it goes accross the loop. I disconnected the loop from the machine to check to see if there were any knick or cutts in the coil wire, still nothing.
So, while the loop was still disconnected, i turned on the machine, tone was produced like its supposed to without the seaminly random tone, so i increased the sensitivity and it became unstable again (without the loop). Am i missing something (other than the loop) but isn't the machine only supposed to react to the coil and when its disconnected from the coil it shouldn't react like that?
After putting it all back together, it still handles badly, does not pick up signals in any coherent manner. Anybody have a clue what might be wrong?
It was working fine on friday morning, put it in the back of the truck (didn't bang it) when to a new sight, fired it up, and hasn't worked properly since. I used the factory nicad's and fresh double A's.
Lookin for advice.......
 
I suggest you try another coil on it, if that doesn't work then try pulling the battery out when the detector first starts up before the point it would normally settle down to a normal screen.
If that don't work send it in. Also .. if your running an X-1 probe, take it off and see if it helps.
Good Luck
Mike
 
The cable connection between the box and the shaft
make sure it is tight.
I run explorers and have had the same problem.
hope it works.
 
I know it is uncommon but I have had a cable fracture.
worth a try ?
good luck.
 
....when I got my coil wet. I had the same problem that Jim stated in this post. My coil had pin holes in it that one would never notice as they were very very tiny. After it sat overnight, the next day it would not detect anything that I waved in front of it. I replaced the coil and all was well. Hope this helps...
Ed-
 
Mabe there are batches of explorers that are not water tight.
I think your right on this one Ed.
 
I have a problem with my Explorer XS detector (bought in 2002) starting the day before yesterday... It started by turning off by itself with a full battery charge after an hour or so of hunting. I'd turn it back on and had to reprogram my settings. It did this 3 or four times that day. Yesterday I was hunting and found trash, 4 coins, and a gold pendent with 5 small stones..maybe diamonds. Then I hit a large iron locking lug nut and it shut off again... I could not get it to start up again. I sat at a picnic table for a half hour trying everything but take the housing apart. Frustrated at 4pm I went home when the detector was doing me great...I wasn't missing a thing up to 8-9 inches with my "JOEY". Love that coil! Anyways came home and took the detector arms off and my Sun Ray probe. I had the unit ready to ship to Minelab who probably wouldn't fix it anyways since the XS is obsolete to repair with them. I read in a post that when the charged battery stays all night in the machine it starts up in the morning. So at 11 pm I sat it on the table OFF with no coil or probe attached with a fully charged RnB ml 2900 Lithium Battery. I was up at 4am and the detector was on!..ALL BY ITSELF!!
I set it to FACTORY DEFAULT while I had the chance.
I shut it off and on a few times and tried all the buttons and everything worked like new. I left it on and went to bed and got up today at noon and it was still running smoothly after 8 hours...tried all the buttons again ...turned it off and on a number of times and laid it down again running. Then I read above in a blog where it was mentioned to "PULL THE BATTERY OUT WHILE HOLDING THE "ON BUTTON" DOWN WHILE IT IS PLAYING THE FIRST 2 SECONDS OF ITS SONG.... AND TURN IT ON AGAIN"!!! It was briefly mentioned and then I remembered from a decade ago something That Was Lost To The Ages. THIS IS NOT RESETTING TO "FACTORY DEFAULT SETTINGS" BUT IS ACTUALLY HOW YOU "REBOOT" THE COMPUTER!!!
I have not done this in years! So a while ago I went outside with the coil reattached and wow!...it's working better than ever! I hope my shut-off problem has been cured without a $150 bill with shipping to Minelab. Hopefully it keeps on working. I am sitting next to it now and it's 2:45pm. It has been running since 4am and I will let it run until the battery goes dead or I go out today with it. It will take a day for this battery to go dead!!!
Hope this solves your problem! Braveheart (John) Clinton Township Michigan. Looking for new hunting buddies...any takers??? ph. 586-419-2865 16 miles northeast of Detroit.

I have some settings below and would like to have any opinions on these and maybe some goodies of your own! Thanks ...glad to be back here after so many years! ;)

Been away from detecting for the last 3 years... having hard times. Well I couldn't take it any longer and started again a month ago. I've got an Explorer XS and love it! Being away from it I thought I lost all know how but I didn't. I actually am programming it better and more wide open with only nails, crown caps and I have the right side of the screen (smallest EDIT box) blacked out 3/4's of he way up from the bottom or starting where blacked out Crowns leave off. This blackened along the screens right side actually works to take out ground low ground noise.... (read this from an Australian dude) ...he blacks out the whole right side from top to bottom but I go only 3/4 from the bottom...enough to keep nails from trying to bounce from right middle to upper left but I left 1/4 from the top clear to get the Silver dimes, quarters, halves and silver dollars clearly. I've been using no discrimination only in cleaner areas.

COILS used for these settings:
Coiltek "JOEY"
Coiltek "Platypus" ... waiting to see more field tests on the Nel "Hunter" coil...compared to the Platypus.
.....I haven't used my 15" WOT yet on these settings... maybe too crazy for the "Wild Orange Thing"! LOL
I absolutely love the JOEY and the Platypus... Just got them and wish I had them years ago!!! I will have my stock 10" up for sale very soon.. it's trash compared to these!

DISPLAY:
Smart setting.

SENSITIVITY:
32 if I can!!!... with deep on.

AUDIO SETTINGS:

VOLUME
Max Limit at 9 or 10.
Gain at 9 or 10.

TONE
Thresh hold at 9
Variability at 9
Limit at 9

SOUNDS
Conduct

OPTIONS:
Audio 1... This used to drive me nuts but I find I can sweep much faster and the lingering tone brings you back even thought you are miles from it already! It definitely lets you know it's a real target down there good or bad. I can handle Audio 2 and 3 but are sure what they are good for yet...I'll stay in Normal and 1 for now! lol

OPTION:

NOISE..set at your discretion 1 thru 10...I'm practicing in all of them. AUTO is always a safe bet but I feel I have control in manual. lol
1-10 Frequencies are:
1... 16.1 kHz ...better for small gold
2... 15.7 kHz
3... 15.2 kHz
4... 14.9 kHz
5... 14.4 kHz
6... 14.1 kHz
7... 13.7 kHz
8... 13.4 kHz
9... 13.1 kHz
10..12.8 kHz
11..12.5 kHz ...better for big silver
.....What the kHz numbers 2 thru 10 in between are good for I have no Idea yet..but am experimenting in the field. lol
This is what I have been reading in the last few weeks learning mostly from Australian detectorists who have the worst mineralized ground conditions.

RECOVER:
Set on Deep

CONTRAST:
10 with my eyes!

BATTERY:
RnB Innovations ML-2900 Lithium-ion Battery for Minelab FBS Metal Detectors $129.95
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271156633218?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
....best battery ever...haven't deleted its 1st charge yet in over 20 hours of use! 30 hours plus seems feasible!!!

If someone wants to try these for show and tell here I'd love to have your opinions... I have detected since 1985 sporadically and heavy from 2002 (got my XS) to 2008 but don't feel like I ever mastered it all that time... now I feel its all coming together. You have to try new setting always! That's what I'm doing. I am now going to places of high trash that I could not do anything but go crazy and now I'm finding stuff until the sun goes down. I cant wait to hit places I wrote off my list years ago!!!

Love to hears some of your favorite setting! Above was hunting mostly old parks,1880 soccer field, and in the woods and one old 1880's farmstead. Wet ground with all this rain we have been having.
Thanks All! Good to be back! John ;)
July 22 2003
 
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