My Safari will not detect a broken gold ring, why?

[trezurhunter]

Hello all, I have a broken 14 K gold ring that use to belong to my mother. I placed it on the ground to see what reading I would get. It will not detect the ring even in the all metal mode. Does anyone know why? The band is separated on the top near where the diamonds are. Now I'm wondering if the Safari will pick up small gold chains too. If anyone can tell me why, I sure would like to know.

 

[Elton]

Many times a detector, any brand, will not pick up broken rings. broken signals at best if that.... I don't know about the Safari and Gold chains. Many detectors will not pick up Gold chains either..

 

[KinTN]

Elton is correct on both small gold chains and broken gold rings- many if not most detectors will have problems with those.

 

[Fletch88]

Totally normal for most VLF's especially multi freq machines. To find open or thin small gold machines like F-19 , G2, GB Pro,GB2 are better at picking up small gold. Tesoro Tiger shark does better than mult freq machines also for finding small gold in h2O.

 

[trezurhunter]

Thanks all for the information.

 

[Goldstrike]

In response to Elton's comment on the Safari's ability to detect gold chains, I just wanted to show a 14K chain I detected last month with my Safari. The heart is gold plated 925 but the chain is marked solid 14K. It T.I.D'd at 29-30. I think if the heart was not attached, or the little ring lock and tag, it might not have detected it. Come to think of it, I'll do a little test and separate the heart from the chain tomorrow and see if it will detect it!! I also agree that most detectors have a very hard time detecting broken gold rings.

 

[Prep1957]

When I use my 6X8 my gold finds really increased.I open 6-7-8 when I normally hunt and I really started to hit the ladies ring and shield nickel now and then for some reason.

 

[SWMO Mark]

Try squeezing the ring and hold it closed, while doing a airtest It should pick it up if you are accepting tin foil.

 

[Goldstrike]

I have another observation and question concerning this thread........
I have detected broken silver rings before. I think silver rings can break because of expansion/ contraction in the ground and possibly due to chemicals in the ground i.e. fertilisers and salts etc; affecting the composition of the silver.
Unlike gold, older silver seems to get a little brittle and subject to cracking.
I cannot remember ever having detected a broken gold ring (although I have detected 'lawnmower' and deformed rings in the past) and I'm wondering if anyone else might have come across a broken gold ring? I think with gold being more malleable and not subject to chemicals etc;, the likely hood of passing up a broken gold ring is very slim? Gold chains of course are a different thing to consider but I just wanted to comment on the gold ring issue here.

 

[mudpuppy]

Interesting question Goldie...OBN found a broken band 10k back in March is the only broken gold band ring I remember ever seeing posted...'course that was with his PI rig...

I suppose a guy could take one he plans on scrapping and cut it to test and see?

I once got called to find a lost gold wedding ring at a boatramp, when the guy was loading his boat on the trailer, his ring caught on something and broke and went flying...we did find one small section of it in his boat, so it actually shattered and just not split...I could not find the other half with any of my rigs at the time, (CZ20 and F70) on account of the boatramp was reinforced with rebar....I told him to take that little piece we did find to a jeweler and have him use it to melt with more stock to make him a new one, which seemed to make him feel better..
Mud

 

[jabbo]

Freezing soil will split rings at the bottom of the band where the band is thinnest. I found a few that were split.

 

[Rob in (Ca)]

My safari would not hit on several small toe rings regardless of the settings. the safari hits on small charms so my educated quess is if the target is small but solid the safari hits on it. Targets small and thin invisible to be safari.

 

[braveheart1954]

The break does not allow the signal to get to most detectors... Gold Bug it will. Hold the ring tight together at the break and it will detect. No matter how long and how many links there are in a gold chain the detector will only pick up one of the links ONLY! If the clasp is the larget link then that is all most detectors will pick up. If you find a chain it is usually by accident or if you find a gold pendent search the area by hand.. lots of times the chain is nearby! Get a Gold Bug 1 for $150 and keep it in the car... Mark the area you found the gold pendent..go back to the car and come back with the Gold Bug1 and find the chain!

 

[Southwind]

As much as I love the FBS for deep coins, I have to admit all my testing shows it lacks on the small, odd shaped and broken gold. My AT Pro will hit on all those small odd shaped earrings and pendants and even the broken rings with no problems. It is correct that many VLF's have the issues but there are also a few special one that do not. That is why the AT Pro or Deus is my tot lot machine.

 

[Prep1957]

When I hunted in late 70's and 80,s found a lot of gold rings with old TR machines.

 

[glenn3-88]

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Guys

If you can imagine this ring being the face of a clock, look at where the small
hand would be at 11:30. You see there is about a 1/16" repair there. I found
this ring at the beach at 9" with my Safari last summer and it had been resized.
The place where it had been resized was rusted away. You can see there at
the 11:30 position where my wife had a jeweler repair the ring. This is the result.
$5500.00 appraisal. That entire portion of the ring was missing and it hit at the
TID of 9. It's a pretty thick solid gold band and that could be the reason I picked
it up on the machine. Actually I walked past it after hitting the 9 and it had a
very different tone to it, I would say a sweeter tone, but the tone a 9 gives and
I turned around and went back to it and dug it up.

 

[kschae4]

Congrats, Glenn. That's a beauty. Thnanks for the stats so that I can compare vs junk samples.

 

[Goldstrike]

I've given up on digging 9's. Every single time it's foil, usually the big round flat foil cover that is a safety seal on wide mouthed drink containers. I know I must have missed a ring or two but I must have dug many, many 9's to find it's foil. Having said that, If it tid's at 9 and IF it sounds different from foil, I'll dig it! That holds true for most any number because usually, it's something worthwhile and worth digging.

 

[Nauti]

Never heard of a machine that won't hit broken rings before.I've found a number of broken rings with my machine,they tend to hit with a double bleep signal.I agree though that fine gold chains will give most machines a problem.