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KCK

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I have recently purchased an Explorer II and I have read the manual, watched the video. Anything special or in addition to those instructions I should know about would be appreciated.

Like one of the things not discussed in the video is the three or so Audio modes of operations. How different are they and do they effect how the detector discriminates?

Anything else to help a newbie would be appreciated as well. If you can think of any glitches or ways around the learning curve please include them. I realize it may take a few months till it begins to click!

Is the weight a major issue? As I hear some complaints about the ergonomics as well. I understand that the arm rest is somewhat adjustable.

Are the smaller coils necessary?

And last but not least.....How did you learn to solve the Pinpoint issues with your Explorer?

Sincerely Thanks for your comments...

KCK
 
Hi KCK,

First of all, just don't believe all the hype about the Explorerer or any other detector. All detectors have their pluses and minuses and the Explorer is no exception.

In my opinion the pluses outweigh the minuses.

Yes, it is a little heavier than some, slower to regain the threshold than others, and difficult to learn for some.

Despite that, it has been about the most aclaimed metal detector on the market for the last 5 or 6 years and is still at the top of the game.

Second, don't worry about not knowing what everything does at first. That is where you try a setting and see for yourself how it can help you and if you prefer it or not. I had an XS and went from there to the SE so I never had a II, so I don't know if it explains it in the manual. But, I would do what the name implies and "Explore" what each setting does. Compared to many things, the menu system of the Explorer is quite simple. It is not the mammouth task some make it out to be. I'm not saying you shouldn't take plenty of time to learn it or read the manual a time or two, but take one step at a time and see what each one does.

I remember my first Explorer I did what I just suggested. Having heard all the hype about it being hard to learn I thought I would be in for a long day. However, when I had finished going through all the menu items I remember thinking, "Is that all there is?"

Don't get me wrong, it is a very flexable and powerful machine and the settings are very important to understand. Not only that, the Explorer works best when it is optimized for each hunting location. That might take a few minutes hunting to determine based on how trashy, mineralized, and how much iron is in the ground.

Based on these things though, you may decide it is to your advantage to go to a smaller coil to pick things out of trashy ground (more separation). On ground with few targets or very deep targets then you might go with a larger coil to cover the ground better and get a little more depth. Or you might do what I sometimes do and start with a smaller or stock coil and then go over it again with a large coil to see if I can get anything a little deeper after the other targets have been removed.

You might be well served to go to a good location and mark off a 6' x 6' area and then dig every target you hear. Take careful note of what you thought it would be and what it was. Keep the targets and take them home and listen to the tones using bench test or burying them. Take note of how different they sound or how they lose their sound and depth (distance from the coil) is increased or decreased. See how they sound next to each other and how close they can be and your coil still be able to separate them. Change your settings on the machine to see how they may affect depth and tone. EXPLORE!

Small coils may not be necessary, but they can sure add to your finds and let you hunt ground that you may otherwise have to pass up. Maybe not at every site, but at many of them. You can live without them, but they are definately a bonus to have. The same with a large coil.

A swingy thingy may help you deal with the weight. It has never really been an issue with me until I got a large coil. I can still swing for a few hours with a large coil and no harness. Otherwise I can pretty much swing it all day with no major issues.

There are many guys on here that are more experienced than I am that you can learn from. My advice is to check here often and on the Explorer Classroom Forum, but mainly find a good location (very important - if there is nothing there then you can't find it) and sweep your coil. Experience finding things will take care of the learning curve.

Hope this helps!

HH Alton
 
Really, though,
Don't bother with the three audios UNTIL you really learn NORMAL audio.

The important thing to know right now is your sensitivity (sens) (run it up in manual just until the detector is unstable then back it off to where the cursor is not bouncing around on the smart screen.

Most of the real Pro's (me included, nyuk nyuk) hunt in smart screen to see the deep coins bounce. This is hard to see in digital mode.
You can switch to digital and see the conduct/ferrous numbers after locating an object if so desired.

Keep it simple! Simple! Keep your batteries charged too.
 
I believe you are referring to the audio response modes and I guess a lot depends on your hearing but would stay with normal until you get the hang of it as some fellows use Audio 1 when they start to experiment and yes they are different. Remember go slow lest you become confused.
Type minelab Explorer in google and should give you informative sites.
A good talk with a Minelab dealer or perhaps a trip or two with a competent explorer user will cut down the learning period..Try the quickstart mode until you get the feel for it as in its own right is a competent mode.Learm the basics before you move lest you become confused
Sure weight is one problem but ergonomics is another as its nose heavy.Remember the armrest and lower rod can be set to fractions of an inch so set it up for your personal makeup having your arm fully extended while using a slow even swing just brushing the top of the ground and it should help. Various commercial setups such as the swingy thing transfer the weight onto the stronger back muscles and is a big help if you don't have back problems..
A small coil is your call but it helps the ergonomics(nose heavy) and many do well with them in trashy areas or areas where the stock ten incher is tough to use.
As far as pinointing the manual gives an excellent way and some sites reveal other ways, but find one that works and stay with it(((practice))) is the name of the game and after a while you should become competent.
Last but not least don't rush ahead to more advanced facets until you know the basics and any questions fire away as we have many competent explorer users on the forum.
 
(I just got my Exp II in January)

"If you hunt in iron trash with nails and such you will need to learn how to id a coin from iron false hits.
Simple method is run the detector wide open in Iron mask with a low setting of like -15 so you hear the
iron and evrything else.
When you get a high tone but are not sure switch to pinpoint and SLOWLY X the target until it is
centered.
Switch back to normal mode and resweep across the center you just found. if the target stays high with a
very narrow sweep..like 2" side to side...called the minelab wiggle..dig it.
if the target instead nulls or stays a low tone you can walk away.
Iron likes to give a high tone of swept off center and is the cause for many peoples angst. Again that is
because they do not bother to center the target in pinpoint.
Not a big deal but it drives people ape who won't bother to do it."

It has saved me a lot of digging of rusty nails. Rather use my digging time to dig goodies instead of nails.

Hope this helps.
 
Another thought is to buy Andy's book. There is a lot of good info there and it has helped me quite a bit
 
What a great support group you guys are. I love learning and reading your replies. Your help and expertise is priceless.

Thanks for all the replies someday your expertise will be mine as well! I hope to somehow help others just like you guys have helped me .

Most appreciated@

KCK/Ohio
 
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Click on the explorer tips button. Charles got me up and running in no time flat.......


Good luck to you!
Joel
 
sweep the coil and lock your eyes on the ground where the signal is strongest. Then walk around the target 90 degrees and sweep again listening again for the strongest part of the signal. Where these two lines intersect is the spot to dig. Do this in regular discriminate mode(not pinpoint) to make sure you're not getting another nearby target.
Neal
 
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