Hello All. Need some advice on the notch setting. I've been using different programs in different areas that I hunt here in So. Ca. I've never found anything, in parks or the beach, that was worth keeping under 40 on the Deus. The lowest setting that I have found anything worth keeping was 43 and that was a small kids 10K gold ring. So I've been using notch to 40 to keep down the chatter. Lately I have been using Gary sifter program and it doesn't use any notching. So I was wondering if using the notch, to 40, was hurting my hunting using Gary's program. I don't expect to find any relics in the area's that I hunt, so using the notch to 40 seemed like a good idea. What say you all? Thanks.
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Need Some Advice
- Thread starter unearth
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Its very rare that i use the TID screen,the Deus is basically a audio machine and if it gives a decent signal in full tones or the settings that i use in version 2 then it has too come out,never ever use the notch facility,its mainly you folks across the pond that use that,i want to hear every target in the ground,the TID is not the most reliable feature on any detector and once you start going over say the 8'' depth range then audio is far more reliable at greater depth.
Me personally the most important indicator on the screen is the top right hand one the GB,that i use far more than the TID,when using the actual GB figure on pasture or deep ploughed and rolled fields if the GB stays steady then drops or increases dramatically,this could be telling you that some form of occupation has been in the area like say fires,furnaces,human activity and then i slow down to a snails crawl and then map the area accordingly.Those are the sites that possibly could have the decent find and those are the ones that i am after.
My personal opinion is that if you notch things out,you stand a very good chance that you will miss targets,i guess across the pond most of the targets that you hunt are of a universal type and i guess that is why notch is used more for notching out certain low value coins etc.But in the UK we dont tend to even notch or discriminate out foil as then you would start missing our main targets that we are after the 'silver hammered coinage' these are not all the same silver content or size,so if we use notch or higher discrimination then we 'will' miss these silver coins.
Also some of our gold coins and other older gold targets come in just slightly above iron and once again if you are too heavy with the discrimination or even notch out iron then you will also miss these gold targets as well,early celtic gold and most gold coinage and jewellery can vary gold content wise as no standard of gold content was in place until 100s or even thousands of years after being used.
For me i prefer to use as little discrimination as possible and certainly not notching anything out,its a metal detector after all,let the audio of the Deus tell you then make that final 'dig/no dig decision' but for me i dont trust a screen to make that decison solely,my ears are far better at making that decision than any screen.
Me personally the most important indicator on the screen is the top right hand one the GB,that i use far more than the TID,when using the actual GB figure on pasture or deep ploughed and rolled fields if the GB stays steady then drops or increases dramatically,this could be telling you that some form of occupation has been in the area like say fires,furnaces,human activity and then i slow down to a snails crawl and then map the area accordingly.Those are the sites that possibly could have the decent find and those are the ones that i am after.
My personal opinion is that if you notch things out,you stand a very good chance that you will miss targets,i guess across the pond most of the targets that you hunt are of a universal type and i guess that is why notch is used more for notching out certain low value coins etc.But in the UK we dont tend to even notch or discriminate out foil as then you would start missing our main targets that we are after the 'silver hammered coinage' these are not all the same silver content or size,so if we use notch or higher discrimination then we 'will' miss these silver coins.
Also some of our gold coins and other older gold targets come in just slightly above iron and once again if you are too heavy with the discrimination or even notch out iron then you will also miss these gold targets as well,early celtic gold and most gold coinage and jewellery can vary gold content wise as no standard of gold content was in place until 100s or even thousands of years after being used.
For me i prefer to use as little discrimination as possible and certainly not notching anything out,its a metal detector after all,let the audio of the Deus tell you then make that final 'dig/no dig decision' but for me i dont trust a screen to make that decison solely,my ears are far better at making that decision than any screen.
C
calabash digger
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Thats the way I do it too mega. I have deep targets of late that start with a iffy tone and then cut the plug and the tones gets better and out flys a nice relic. I understand what your talking about above but im no help as im a relic hunter and the tone in full tones is what I go by alot of info in the tone. Would you try my relic program in a park if I gave it to you my friend uses it here and taggs some very deep coins ,dont know how your ground is there ,Garys sifter programs is the best BUT but it has specific applications and thats the heavy iron. We dig 11 inch wheat pennys here with my relic program but thats based on my soil conditions. Let me know if you want to give it a whirl it screams on coins. Some of that noise your getting maybe ground noise.
Low-Boy/LCPM
Active member
Don't notch just don't dig it but I'm a relic hunter and some targets that are near one another will bring your VDI down so maybe a button that is say 55 and iron will read way lower. When you hut in iron the square nails and such will read in the low single digits so if it is mixed in with a relic no telling what your missing. At parks I would think that maybe different??
sprchng
Well-known member
unearth said:
If you are not using normalization you will need to set your notch at each frequency below the foil range to avoid losing some good targets.
If you are setting your notch at 40 and running in 18khz , you stand a good chance of missing quality targets,,,,i.e. I have a nice ladies 10k ring with a nice stone that reads 37 in 18 khz.
C
calabash digger
Guest
Sens 90 -93 tx 2-3 I run mine sen 90 and tx 2 most of the time but if you want to crank it up just watch out for all those bb s you will find. REACTIVITY 2, SILENCER 0, FULL TONES,AUDIO RESPONCE ON 5, DISCRIM ON 1 JUST TO KNOCK OUT GROUND NOISE.,IRON AUDIO 0, 7-17 KH WHAT EVER RUNS THE BEST FOR YOU. I FIND 7KH RUNS QUITE ON SOME OF MY FARM FIELDS AND 12 RUNS BETTER IN OTHER PLACES NEVER REALLY USE 17 UNLESS EMI IS A ISSUE,NOTCH NOTHING. HERES THE KICKER PROPER GROUND BALANCE IS KEY I MANUALLY SET MINE TO 86-88 THATS WHAT MY GROUND RUNS. YOU CAN DROP IT BY 2 POINTS BELOW THE ACTUAL NUMBER AND IT MAKES THE MACHINE HIT DEEP BETTER BUT THERE ARE TRADE OFFS.LITTLE MORE CHATTY ETC. I THINK I GOT EVERYTHING. BTW IM NOT SCREAMING LOL HOPE THIS HELPS IT IS A DEEP AND FAST PROGRAM!