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I hunt almost exclusively in urban areas with the EX II. I have the stock coil, the 5" Excelerator coil and the 8" Minelab coil. I want to add to the arsenal. Any thoughts on the Joey coil versus the new Platypus coil?? Thanks for any recommendations.
 
With the coils you currently have, you are well covered in the smaller coil area. Since you are hunting urban areas, teh WOT would probably be overkill and cause you masking and missing targets. If you need to get another coil, the Platypus would be the one to go with as it is a replacement for the stock coil that makes the detector seem lighter due to the balance and offers a tad better ground coverage and sharper target response. It works well even in moderate trash.
Let me know if I can provide you with any additional info on coils for your Explorer.
Andy Sabisch
 
I have an XS,in my ground at sensitivity over 15 my stock 10.5 coil starts nulling when I swing it. The Platapus starts making noise instead of going quiet, sorta the oposite, also when I tilt it to the left, raising the right side it makes the same noise. Kinda like a pre coin beep. Whats goin on?
 
Thanks,Andy. I' think I'll be ordering the Platypus. My WOT coil is on ebay because it's basically useless for my type of hunting.
 
The Platypus isn't going to give him any advantage over the stock coil in terms of finding targets in areas he's already hunted with the stock coil.
With the WOT he can start over in these areas and hunt a layer at least 2 inches deeper than he's been able to reach before, if coins are down there he'll get them.
Also, you CAN use this big coil in urban areas e.g. trash/iron filled parks, many of us have done just that with good results. Its more effort than using the stock coil, but if there are deeper targets in his area it will be worth it. The WOT has some interesting abilities to reach under the more shallow trash layer and lock onto deep targets, its also king for on edge coins.
Can you use a WOT in a trash heap nightmare? Well its not fun and you won't want to do that often but yes, if you go slow and notch out a bunch of the trash you can pick off deeper coins even in that mess. I have used the WOT at two such sites, one a field where they held large concerts in modern times and that place is a trash heap. Another was next to a baseball diamond where the fans stood, that also was a trash nightmare. The WOT was able to reach between 2 bottlecaps and lock onto a walking half dollar near that baseball diamond, I cut one cap in half cutting the plug and the other was in the plug, the silver half was under both. Moving the coil slow you could hear it hit each alum bottlecap, but inbetween the silver half was screaming silver through the headphones. Thats another thing about the WOT, you have not heard a silver hit until you hear one using the WOT, it screams when it gets over silver.
It sounds incredible I know but that WOT coil is spooky good.
 
Charles,
I appreciate your prespective and yes, the WOT is an amazing coil even in trashy areas but as you said, that does require a great deal of effort for it to produce. I am not one to advocate buying every coil out there but find one or two other than the stock coil that will suit your type fo hunting.
I will say that I have found targets with the Platyous coil that the stock coil would either not hit or gave marginal signals on, so, I think you can finds targets in aeas you have hunted with the stock coil. Again, this is my opinion but based on a good deal of side-by-side testing with the two coils on identical detectors (both EXII's and Quattro's).
Also, you will see that he already had a WOT and found it dod not work for him.
Andy Sabisch
 
I'd have to see audio & video of a platypus getting a signal on a target the stock coil could not, that just makes no sense to me given the coils are virtually identical in size. If anything the stock Explorer II coil should go a bit deeper, the XS coil perhaps not.
Now if they wound the platypus hotter than the stock coil then it might have an edge. My WOT was wound a bit hotter than the stock coil, so was the Joey. I guess I'll have to buy one and plug it into the scope and run some tests.
But to wind it hot enough to get a signal on a target the stock coil could not, that would be a pretty hot coil and would be a lot noisier in bad ground.
The WOT is 5 inches larger than the stock coil, thats HUGE, yet in our ground that only yeilds about 2 more inches of depth over the stock coil. The platypus is 1.5 inches longer, but 1.5 inches narrower, a wash at best size wise compared to the stock coil so where's the gain in depth coming from?
I don't know, perhaps our soil just stinks in my area but I'd fall over in shock if the platypus could get a good signal on a target I could not even hear with the stock coil...unles...maybe Golddigger donated his coin hunting implants and Coiltek somehow fused the two together, that would explain a lot! <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":D">
 
I don't think the WOT's only strength is depth. The WOT loves coins on-edge and I have dug alot of coins that the stock missed. I have also done good in iron with the WOT irregardless of what my testing 'out back in the yard' told me the WOT wouldn't do. The WOT has alot made of sites for me come alive again with finds. I don't know how the Playtpus compares to the stock coil. But, I think it's main strength would be to get depth in between targets that the edges of the stock coil hits targets. Believe me, I know you have alot of experience but that just my take and experience on the subject. HH!
-Bill
 
Andy,Your heading is appropiate,on person's input.I ask you for that in a post earlier last month,but never seemed to get a response.I ask that you use your writing skills and influence on your company to try to get them to help the detectorist to preserve their access to metal detect on PUBLIC lands.Maybe you can even talk the magazines you write for to carry free ads to say this land is our land let's keep it that way. I would at least like some sort of response from you.Thanks in advance
 
We agree on the WOT Bill, its just a wonderfully interesting coil.
 
Unlike what some may hope or think, I do not liv on the forums and am often on the road for a week or more at a time. When I get back I do not scan past posts to see what I've missed. Sorry if I missed a post you directed to me but if you have something "hot", E-mail me directly or call me . .. . my phone rings constantly while I am in.
Andy Sabisch
 
Andy,I didn't say you lived on the forum's.I ask you to help by your influences to pass the word that public land is our land,and help preserve our rights to use it.Sorry if I offended you.On the other hand if we lose those rights there is no need to read about metal detector tests.is there
 
Jim,
No offense taken, I just wanted to say that the reason I did not respond to you was because I did not see your previous post (found it doing a search).
Shoot me your E-mail address or phone number and we can chat . . . . . several things in the works already on that matter. I'd have tried to get in touch with you except your E-mail link is not active.
Andy Sabisch
 
Jim,
If you have tried to contact me, nothing has come through - wanted to follow-up with you since you expressed the desire to talk.
Andy
 
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