New detectors on Whites site

[Dan-o]

There is a new Prizm 5G and a Coinmaster Pro.

 

[ohio fred]

They both sound like good detectors

 

[Firecracker]

Picked-up a new P-5G yesterday, will try-it at park and California black sand beach. Cool manual ground balance.

Regards,
Firecracker

 

[BarberBill]

In some areas the manual GB can make a great difference. A good addition to the detector IMHO.
BB

 

[DELTA196]

The Prism III and IV have disapeared???

 

[PaulMBurgess]

The regular Prizm V is gone now also,I wonder whats different about 5G besides a different coil,and a little different display face?I have the Prizm V. I see they kept the Prizm II as a low end detector,go figure that one out.

 

[Dan-o]

The 5G has manual ground balance.

Dan C

 

[ohio fred]

n/t

 

[PaulMBurgess]

Question Why would they put in manual ground balance over auto ground balance? What am I missing here?

 

[Old Katz]

Paul:

>Question Why would they put in manual ground balance over auto ground balance? What am I missing here?<

Good question. And I wonder just what the difference is between auto and manual. Does Auto imply
factory present? I'm confused. Maybe Monte will jump in and help us out.

Katz

 

[Monte]

There is a new Prizm 5G and a Coinmaster Pro.

Reghardless of the manufacturer, I have come to really come to dislike the use of the name enhancement of "Pro" or "Professional."

For one, most detector users are HOBBYISTS and NOT "professionals." For another, the use of that term has been used for decades! D-Tex used it. Compass used it from early on. Minelab uses it. White's has used it off-and-on too many times to count, Other manufacturers still seem to dredge it up out of the "What's My Line" box of names to the point of annoyance. Am I a fan of White's detectors? Yes, indeed, of many models that have and do serve me well, but I just have a tough time dealing with new models, or revised models, that simple have Pro or Professional added and I fell it is an over-used marketing badge. Okay, done venting, and there is another one coming, too, so be ready.

Question Why would they put in manual ground balance over auto ground balance? What am I missing here?

You are missing the fact that too often a manufacturer misapplies the term "Auto" or "Automatic", and this is probably most misused with reference to Ground Balance operation.

"Manual" describes a function that is handled by the operator (meaning YOU do it) who can/should manually adjust the detectors Ground Balance setting to cancel out (balance or ignore) the effects of the ground mineralization.

"Auto" or "Automatic" (or in White's lingo "Auto-Trac") describes an action performed by a detector's circuitry that reads and analyzes the ground mineralization and "automatically" (meaning IT does it, not you) adjusts for a functional Ground Balance setting.

"Preset" is either a designed-in, non-adjustable GB setting, or one that is internally calibrated in the production of the detector (meaning THEY do it), for a setting that a manufacturer determines might be sufficient to provide average ground rejection and functional performance for "turn-on-and-go" simplicity.

So, what you are missing is the proper description of what method of Ground Balance set-up the Prizm series (other than the 6T) has used. It isn't Automatic, but they are a factory PRESET design. The biggest cause for falsing and misbehavior over a wide range of challenging ground environments? A poor GB setting and I think White's hopes the 5G's manual GB addition will help to address the poor performance these models have had in "bad ground" locations.

Good question. And I wonder just what the difference is between auto and manual. Does Auto imply factory present? I'm confused. Maybe Monte will jump in and help us out.

Okay, I jumped in and I hope this helped. The "difference" between a TRUE auto and manual is that a detector with adequate adjustment range will allow a savvy operator to achieve the best GB setting for the detector.

Of the three GB methods mentioned, the "Preset" approach is the least efficient and lest versatile. A manual GB, or a model with a good Auto GB circuit (not necessarily tracking) has distinct advantages over a preset detector when search coils are changes or for use in a broad range of ground mineral challenges. I seldom use a "tracking" circuitry, preferring to be the one in charge of maintaining a working GB because full auto-tracking can tune out some targets and cause problems when hunting in iron invested sites.

Monte